Previously, MLM Skeptic have, through SaltyDroid's little expose on the Tartol Clan of Herbalifers, illustrated how what you thought are good odds are actually not so good for you average Joes in Herbalife, though absolutely great for the "insiders". John Tartol is on Herbalife board of directors, and 12 of his clan are among the top earners in Herbalife. Still think you have the same odds as them?
Today, we shall explore Vemma... and whether someone closely related to the top of the company, unlike you, has an edge that you don't.
Any one heard of Bob Proctor? That's him in the middle there, in that beige suit. He was part of "The Secret", or "law of attraction", which, IMHO, is just positive thinking wrapped with mysticism and bogus psycho-babble. But that's not what's important here.
Turns out his wife, Linda Proctor, has rank of 'ambassador' in Vemma, with estimated intake of $14500 a month, according to a "top earners" website. She was even profiled by Vemma themselves in a short video (where she goes to shop in some fancy store and have lunch in fancy restaurant) earlier in 2013.
According to Vemma dashboard, Mrs. Proctor appeared at "Star Presidential" rank on June 2011.
Which is actually... "level 10" on Vemma chart. Ambassador is only one level above that. And according to separate Vemma news, she achieved that on November 2011, the first Canadian to do so.
What's her secret? She claims it's great salesmanship and great inspiration from her husband, Bob Proctor.
What if it's not that? What if she has an "inside track" and has been "predestined" to success?
What if I told you that her husband, Bob Proctor, is a personal friend of Vemma head BK Boreyko, and Bob Proctor had appeared at many times at Vemma conventions as keynote speaker? Would that affect your view of her "success"?
What if I tell you that at least one OTHER person in the Proctor household is also a Vemma ambassador?
Linda Proctor wasn't new to network marketing. On her own website, she opened stated that it was Bob Proctor who taught her to change her approach to sales, and she claimed she did 20 times better within a year or two. She's so grateful, she married him (okay, slight exaggeration here, I'm sure he's a fascinating man and all) Then when she lamented about looking for something different, Bob recommended network marketing and that's like 15 years ago... Which would make it... around 2000?
She never named the company though, but it's not Vemma. Vemma was founded in 2004, less than 10 years old. So... is it because it's NOT relevant? She didn't find success in it... Or did that company ran into trouble and she doesn't want to look as if she was stupid in joining it? Any other reasons? We don't know.
Let's keep looking through. What other links is there from Proctor to Vemma? Following was provided by Vemma reps themselves:
So let's sit back and think about it for a minute...
There is absolutely no reason for Bob Proctor to stay silent about Vemma... esp. if he's closely related to the founder, and his wife is a high level salesperson making a nice chunk of change selling the idea of Vemma to people who are supposed to sell MORE ideas of Vemma.
So what does that really say about Linda's success? Is it due to her? Or due to Bob's help?
And here's something you may or may not know... Another member of the Proctor clan is a Vemma ambassador (level 11). Her name is Colleen Filicetti. Here's her profile on a Vemma recruiting site, next to her stepmom's picture:
If that text is too small, here's what it says: "Colleen Filicetti: Colleen is Bob Proctor’s daughter (Linda’s step daughter). Prior to joining Vemma in 2009, Colleen was a stay at home mother raising her four children."
Two ambassadors (level 11) in Vemma... from the same family, that has tight ties to the head of Vemma.
Keep in mind that Vemma was founded in 2004, so it's 9 years old.
Colleen came in at 2009, only 4 years ago, and she's already ambassador? When did her stepmom join?
Or perhaps a better question... Do you still think Vemma is really "equal opportunity"? Or perhaps, have I gotten you to consider the POSSIBILITY that the game may be rigged AGAINST you?
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Any one heard of Bob Proctor? That's him in the middle there, in that beige suit. He was part of "The Secret", or "law of attraction", which, IMHO, is just positive thinking wrapped with mysticism and bogus psycho-babble. But that's not what's important here.
Turns out his wife, Linda Proctor, has rank of 'ambassador' in Vemma, with estimated intake of $14500 a month, according to a "top earners" website. She was even profiled by Vemma themselves in a short video (where she goes to shop in some fancy store and have lunch in fancy restaurant) earlier in 2013.
According to Vemma dashboard, Mrs. Proctor appeared at "Star Presidential" rank on June 2011.
Which is actually... "level 10" on Vemma chart. Ambassador is only one level above that. And according to separate Vemma news, she achieved that on November 2011, the first Canadian to do so.
What's her secret? She claims it's great salesmanship and great inspiration from her husband, Bob Proctor.
What if it's not that? What if she has an "inside track" and has been "predestined" to success?
What if I told you that her husband, Bob Proctor, is a personal friend of Vemma head BK Boreyko, and Bob Proctor had appeared at many times at Vemma conventions as keynote speaker? Would that affect your view of her "success"?
What if I tell you that at least one OTHER person in the Proctor household is also a Vemma ambassador?
Linda Proctor wasn't new to network marketing. On her own website, she opened stated that it was Bob Proctor who taught her to change her approach to sales, and she claimed she did 20 times better within a year or two. She's so grateful, she married him (okay, slight exaggeration here, I'm sure he's a fascinating man and all) Then when she lamented about looking for something different, Bob recommended network marketing and that's like 15 years ago... Which would make it... around 2000?
She never named the company though, but it's not Vemma. Vemma was founded in 2004, less than 10 years old. So... is it because it's NOT relevant? She didn't find success in it... Or did that company ran into trouble and she doesn't want to look as if she was stupid in joining it? Any other reasons? We don't know.
Let's keep looking through. What other links is there from Proctor to Vemma? Following was provided by Vemma reps themselves:
1. Personal friend
He (Bob Proctor) is personal friend of Vemma CEO BK Boreyko and his late parents. They have known each other for years. Bob Proctor is also friends of a few Vemma top earners.
2. TrainerRemember, I didn't write this. Vemma reps did. I simply don't automatically assume it's proof of legitimacy.
He is the trainer in many of Vemma’s training events and conventions. In fact, he was at the recent Vemma US and Vemma Asia Believe Convention as guest speaker and trainer. He also produced a leadership training series called Opportunity Vemma based on the famous Lead The Field program for all Vemma brand partners. This is a 12 months training program with message from Bob Proctor on daily basis. He has also produced an opportunity video and a leaflet for Vemma.
So let's sit back and think about it for a minute...
There is absolutely no reason for Bob Proctor to stay silent about Vemma... esp. if he's closely related to the founder, and his wife is a high level salesperson making a nice chunk of change selling the idea of Vemma to people who are supposed to sell MORE ideas of Vemma.
So what does that really say about Linda's success? Is it due to her? Or due to Bob's help?
And here's something you may or may not know... Another member of the Proctor clan is a Vemma ambassador (level 11). Her name is Colleen Filicetti. Here's her profile on a Vemma recruiting site, next to her stepmom's picture:
If that text is too small, here's what it says: "Colleen Filicetti: Colleen is Bob Proctor’s daughter (Linda’s step daughter). Prior to joining Vemma in 2009, Colleen was a stay at home mother raising her four children."
Two ambassadors (level 11) in Vemma... from the same family, that has tight ties to the head of Vemma.
Keep in mind that Vemma was founded in 2004, so it's 9 years old.
Colleen came in at 2009, only 4 years ago, and she's already ambassador? When did her stepmom join?
Or perhaps a better question... Do you still think Vemma is really "equal opportunity"? Or perhaps, have I gotten you to consider the POSSIBILITY that the game may be rigged AGAINST you?