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Scam Tactic: Redefine Common Words / Doublespeak

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The term doublespeak was introduced to the world by George Orwell's book "Nineteen Eighty-Four", where it was defined as "using language to introduce ambiguity and confusion to block out facts and aims that does not fit in the program." (slightly paraphrased)  It is no surprise that it is among the arsenal of the scammers.

One such example of doublespeak is the appropriation of the term "sharing" to mean promoting / selling, and "selling" as buying.

According to the Vemma promotional material updated in late 2014, members are no longer representing the brand as a "brand ambassador". Members are instead, an "affiliate" in affiliate marketing where member affiliates refer customers to the company, and earn some commission as part of sales. And affiliates are encouraged to buy some products as "some to enjoy and some to share" with special bonus for those who buy large starter packs.

Let's say you joined, and this sounds perfectly innocuous. Right? WRONG! YOU are the CUSTOMER, if you bought drinks and drank them. Your "sharing" the drinks with others means you are not selling. You are CONSUMING what you paid for by drinking them yourself and giving them away.

Rhetoric: "I am helping the company sell the drinks."

Reality: "I am buying the drinks (for consumption)."

Has the reality sunk in yet? You've been exposed to a reality inversion field. You're being taught to ape buying, but calling it SELLING.  You've been taught to call black white.

There's more.





Don't believe me? This is what was advertised on various Vemma "training" sites operated by affiliates:

Screen cap from a Vemma "affiliate" website explaining what you need to do to get paid: BUY STUFF FIRST!

Note the sequence of events:

  1. Pay Vemma (buy either "Silver Pack" @ $499+ S&H + tax or "2pk" @ $136+S&H+tax )
  2. Recruit people (who also buy Silver Pack or 2pk)
  3. Keep paying every month ("2pk auto ship" @ $136+S&H+tax)
  4. Earn money from people you recruited every month (see step 2) 

You are not selling the stuff. You are BUYING the stuff (and recruiting people who do the same)

You don't want the product. You only bought the product because you were told you need to to join the opportunity and earn money. Yet you are buying them nonetheless, NOT FOR RESALE.

Rhetoric: "We are distributors of the products."

Reality: "We are customers of the products."

Furthermore, the BMW bonus and the Frenzy bonus are only available if you buy the $499 pack vs. the cheaper $136 pack. You are BUYING your earning power (i.e. a raise), rather than through your sales prowess.  Which is yet ANOTHER reality distortion...

Rhetoric: "We are rewarded for our sales."

Reality: "We are rewarded for amount of money we put into the system."

Which was why Vemma was accused by Italy of being a pyramid scheme in 2014 and ordered to pay a fine.

Don't fall for doublespeak. Watch and make sure the actions matches the rhetoric. When they don't, run away and never look back.

A Common Scam Defense: Similarity Between Homeopathy Advocacy and HYIP promotion

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A frequent refrain among HYIP promotion are the following points:

  • It's a conspiracy to destroy the alternative forms of income they don't want you to know
  • You should be in control of your money, not limited to what "they" want you to know
  • Various versions of _____ had been around since ______ and we do something like that
You can find this in almost every HYIP. If they were not outright stated, they were surely implied, or weasel worded like "new and profitable enterprise", often cloaked with buzzwords like cryptocurrency, penny auction, e-commerce, VOIP, and so on. 

We've seen the collapse of various scams using such cloaks. 

TVI Express, a huge international pyramid scheme that spanned several continents (India, Australia, US, most of Europe, several countries in Africa, China, Indonesia, Philippines...) claimed to be selling travel or travel club, and promoted itself as combining internet, e-commerce, working from home, and such. Little travel was provided. 

ZeekRewards, an international ponzi scheme was truly global with net winners (and victims) all over the world. It claimed to be earning huge profits through its penny auctions, but in reality it simply shifted money from last investors to the early joiners through facade of "profit sharing". It was shut down by Secret Service and forced into receivership.

Another scam was TelexFree, where owners claimed to be selling VOIP packages which lets you talk international voice calls over the Internet and avoid long distance phone fees (and for a while, they really did) but in reality is operating a Ponzi scheme based out of two separate countries: Brazil and the US, with investors form all over the world before it was shut down in Brazil, then the US, and even FBI and Homeland Security got involved in the raids.  It is estimated that company took in over 1 BILLION dollars from 1.9 million investors

In more recent news, UFUN out of Malaysia and Thailand enticed members to invest in its cryptocurrency UTOKEN, while claimed to be investing in various enterprises that will realize huge profit for its members. Thailand started a full crackdown weeks ago and had arrested more than a dozen high rankers, with wanted notices out for 200 more, with 300000 pages of evidence handed over to prosecutor's office recently, so there's obviously more to come. Its members were also arrested in Samoa and other places for fraud. 

They all implied that they are new ways to make money, that other people don't know or don't want you to know, and they can actually do what they promise. 

This sounds remarkably like homeopathy and alternative medicine advocacy to me, as they use the same arguments:
  • It's a conspiracy of "mainstream medicine" to destroy "alternative medicine"
  • You should be in control of your health, not have a limited vision forced upon you
  • Various versions of alternative medicine had been around since _____
I'll leave the debunking of the homeopathy advocacy to Michael Vagg, while I tackle the HYIP promotion. 


First, a simple logic question. If you have a choice between paying 50% interest, vs. 20% interest on the money you borrow, which would you choose? 

Why, the 20% of course. Nobody wants to pay 50% interest unless they can't get money any other way. 

Second and final question: Extrapolating from your answer, it is only logical that a business that needs money to source the money with the lowest cost, such as bank (10% or so) or even credit card (20% or so) rather than promising to pay people 50% return on their money, is that correct? 

You better say yes, or else you need a slap on the back of your head. 

So why would an HYIP offer to pay YOU 50% interest for YOUR money (i.e. give them the money, and they promise to give 150% back in a month) rather than taking it out of their credit card and pay only 20% interest? Or less if they can get a bank loan? 

HYIP defies logic. It's nonsense. That is what they the HYIPsters don't want you to know... Not that they have a secret way of making money (they don't) , but the fact that they DON'T have a secret way of making money. Any money they make... is from you voluntarily handing it over (and hundreds or thousands like you) by believing their lies. It's misdirection / equivocation. 

They don't want your thinking to be... "limited" by conventional logic, i.e. no sane business would rather pay 50% interest over merely 20% interest. They *want* you to believe that black is white, up is down, and business would GLADLY pay 50% interest instead of 20% interest because they are nice and WANT to share their profit with you. 

Copy of a Photograph of Charles Dickens
Copy of a Photograph of Charles Dickens
(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
And yes, scams have been around forever. Ponzi may have gotten his name onto the scam because his scam in 1920's was so big, but the scam was described in Charles Dickens' novels back in 1850's

At least homeopathy leaves your health intact, because it ultimately doesn't do anything. (Whether you delayed real treatment and allowed your health to deteriorate is up to you)  However, same can't be said for HYIP, as rarely were funds recovered (unless you got in early and left early, lucky you).  So you were generally in poorer financial health. 

Don't fall for scams by believing in nonsense. 

Scam Tactics: Evolution of a Scam, from Proto-Share to Investment Fund to Cryptocurrency

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A scam, like a specie, must evolve in face of pressure, such as law enforcement, spreading information about how scammy it was, and so on. To this end, it will often adopt the following tactics:
  • Language barrier -- spread to an area that speaks a very different language, like from US to Asia
  • Jargon barrier -- adopt modern buzzwords and drop buzzwords out of favor 
  • Obfuscation barrier -- have multiple company names, then intentionally mistranslate them to create even more confusion. 
Today, we will document one such scam, chronologically, including various names and translations, to show you how a scam evolved.

The scam went by various names. In China it is best known as American Continental Mining Industries 美洲矿业, but it's known elsewhere as USFIA

In November 2014, Chinese media covered that several scammers were extradited from Thailand that were scammers of something called 美洲矿业 that scammed people in Changde 常德, a city in Hunan province, China, as a part of International Fugitive Apprehension program known as "Operation Foxhunt 2014 獵狐2014". Changde police after receiving word that many downlines of the scam is traveling to Thailand for a special promo event, also travelled to Thailand and received cooperation from Thai police. Changde police then infiltrated the event on October 29th, 2014 in Thailand and filmed various promoters attending and speaking at the event, all talking about earn kaboodles of money without doing anything (if you invest now). After gathering the evidence, which was handed to Thai police, Thai police then made the arrests and handed two suspects over to Chinese police who brought them back to China. 

Just to break down the title:

美洲 -- American Continent
矿业 -- Mining Industry

So again, the name of the scam is American Continental Mining Industries 美洲矿业 Searching for this term on Chinese media yielded various newspaper reports, as well as Chinese affiliate promotional material. Another Chinese coverage stated:

今年5月13日,常德市民刘某来到公安机关报案,称将32500元作为会费缴纳给“美洲矿业”公司,参与所谓的琥珀期权、原始股的投资,但过了很长时间,没见任何回报,意识到受骗了。
(2014) May 13th, Mr. Liu of Changde reported he was victim of a scam. He handed 32500 RMB to "American Continental Mining Industries" to participate in supposedly Amber fund and proto-share investment. However, after a long time, there was no returns, and realized he had been scammed. 
接到报警后,常德市公安局立案调查。这个组织对外谎称由“中美政治协商促进会”创办,已获国家商务部的直销牌照,在山东、辽宁、浙江、广东、广西、云南、河南、湖南等10多个省份开展传销活动,还多次以“美洲矿业”之名在中国举办传销宣传聚会。
After receiving the report, Changde MinSec started its investigation. This (criminal) organization claimed to be started by a "China US Political Consultive Promotional Committee" and holds a Chinese "direct sales" license, and engaged in pyramid sales activities in Shandong, Liaoning, Zhejiang, Guangdong, Guangxi, Yunnan, Henan, Hunan, and various provinces, and many times using the name "American Continental Mining Industries" to hold several promotional meetings in China. 
截至2014年6月,该犯罪团伙在中国发展会员180余层级共8万余人,非法收取会费近10亿人民币。
Up to June 2014, this criminal group has developed over 180 levels of downlines of over 80000 members, and illegally solicited funds of nearly 1 billion RMB (~161 million USD)
This news item explained that 2 members, a Mr. Chen (陈某) and a Mr. Lu (陆某) left the country before the police swept up the organization and arrested 22 leaders. Mr. Lu apparently changed the organization name to American Continental Amber (美洲琥) and continue to "remote" manage from afar. As two were arrested in Thailand, we assume both were extradited back to China, but that's not the end of this scam.

Also keep in mind that the Chinese equivalent of Senate is called Chinese People's Political Consultive Conference  and scam's parent organization (中美政治协商促进会) may have been picked to be a soundalike and official-sounding.

So here we have the following events:

2014 -- scam started as American Continental Mining Industries 美洲矿业

2013-2014: American Continental Mining Industries 美洲矿业 Searching for this term on Chinese media yielded various newspaper reports, as well as Chinese affiliate promotional material. Another Chinese coverage stated:

2014 June -- arrests in Changde, China related to 美洲矿业, leader escaped (to Thailand? US?) and renamed operation to American Continental Amber 美洲琥

2014 October -- arrests in Thailand in cooperation between Thai and Chinese police related to 美洲矿业, subjects extradited to China


From here, the scam went quiet in China... Because it was apparently relaunched in the US.




2014-2015  American Investment Alliance Group / Gemcoin


Upon the end of the "American Continental Mining Industries" or American Amber" in China and Thailand, a very similar operation started in the US, aimed at Chinese-American communities.

There were multiple "press-release" type coverage in Chinese newspapers (example 1 in NorCal, example 2 on East Coast, example 3 in Toronto, Canada), touting a "美國投資聯盟集團" (literally American Investment Alliance Group") though it apparently calls itself "Alliance Financial Group", or AFG .  And under that it launched a USFIA Currency Fund which goes by the Chinese name (美國富豪貨幣基金, American Regal Currency Fund)

What is this USFIA? According to its own website stands for "US Fine Investment Arts"



However, on their own "about us" page, they used the Chinese name (美国富豪集团公司)   or American Regal Group Company. It also claimed to be "founded and owned by US China Consultation Association" 中美政治协商促进会





Oh, gee, it's the SAME backer claimed by that "American Continental Mining Industries" 美洲矿业, in China. What a coincidence! What are the chances that two scams would claimed to be backed by the same organization?!  Let's check the timeline though.

Searching for 中美政治协商促进会 revealed that there is such an organization in the Great LA area in SoCal, in the city of Arcadia. It's registered as a US Corporation, and its full name is actually "US-CHINA CONSULTATION ASSOCIATION LIAISON/CONSULTING SERVICES" registered July 2013. Its head is "Steve Chen".

The problem with this registration is the address given is a business  park building. With no suite number, the letters likely go to "Arcadia Business Solutions"... an accountant that also register companies and apparently provides maildrop too.

Checking "Steve Chen", using Arcadia, CA as a filter yielded that Steve Chen is also head of


  • AHome Real Estate LLC
  • Aborell Management Team LLC
  • Aborell Investment Associates LLC
  • Aborell REIT III LLC
  • AmAuction Inc. 
  • USFIA Inc
  • Apollo Real Estate Investments I LLC
  • Aborell Advisors I LLC
  • Aborrell MGMT I LLC
  • Ameritra Inc. 
  • Amkey Inc. 
ALL of these are at the SAME building with exact same address (either no suite or Suite 100). 


Suspicious, but nothing illegal. On the other hand, this is the SAME pattern that Phil Ming Xu did, by establishing lots of different companies that supposedly dabbled in everything from golf courses to fashion to immigration...

Any way, back to Mr. Steve Chen, whose Chinese name is apparently 陳力. Too generic to search though.

Is there a link between USFIA and 美洲矿业 (US Continental Mining Industries)? Google says... it's the same thing. Search for "usfia inc 美洲矿业" scroll down past the videos, and you'll get...


CCYP = Chinese Commercial Yellow Pages

So, there's really no doubt that they are the SAME operation. Here are the links:
  • Died in China, resurrected in the US only months later
  • Claimed to have same parent "China US Political Consultive Promotional Committee"
  • Claimed to be investing in amber
  • Same Chinese name 美洲矿业
Don't touch this with a ten foot pole.

Instead of just "mining backed proto-shares" they now claimed that they need investment into their "fund", then it's mixed up with these cryptocurrency "gemcoins" now backed by amber mining in Dominican Republic.

What a mess.

Scam Psychology: Know Just Enough to be Dangerous (to yourself and others)

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Do you know just enough to be dangerous? You don't think so?

You are probably wrong, as scientists have LONG documented "Dunning-Kruger Effect". Basically, for a given skill, incompetent people will
  • fail to recognize their own lack of skill
  • fail to recognize genuine skill in others
  • fail to recognize extremity of their inadequacy
Basically, you are so incompetent, you don't even recognize that you ARE incompetent. It's be like a person born and grew up near-sighted, that he thinks the world really is slightly blurry, and didn't even realize he needed glasses. 

This is related to, but is not the same as overconfidence effect, in that a person always thinks his confidence in his or her judgments is greater than the ACCURACY of those judgments. This is especially true when the confidence is high. People who were 100% sure of their answer in a certain test that turned out to be only 80% right are guilty of such overconfidence.

This is very common in scams, where the victims were recruited to be a co-conspirator, (i.e. to also recruit, for pyramid and Ponzi schemes, and/or to act as "anecdote witnesses", promoters, and so on), where the victim, overconfident in his or her skills to spot a scam (often armed with such myths as "we have a product, thus we can't be a pyramid scheme", or "I got paid, thus it can't be a scam"), failed to even realize s/he is not competent to even recognize his/her incompetence and failed to recognize proper advice from others.

The scammers are experts in making you believe you made the right decision(s) all along by give you the mushroom treatment, through "learned optimism", except they do it through lie and deceit.


Learned Optimism Through Lie and Deceit

Learned optimism is can be thought of as teaching you "optimism" by feeding you baby steps, including letting you win, through employment of shills and/or other deceit, to make you believe you are far more competent than you think you are. That you can do no wrong.

A lot of seminars selling "opportunities" often employ shills that will rush the desk after hearing "limited quantities available". Their job is to make you join them and buy some of that "limited quantity" (which is NOT limited after all) and think you got a good deal that nobody else will get.

Pyramid schemes often make their first payout very easy to accomplish, and HYIPs often pay out the early joiners very promptly, to convince people that it can pay and continue paying. Though often the earliest joiners are insiders (who got special deals from the owner to join in early and/or promote the deals to their minions) or the "winners" don't actually exist as they are impossible to verify.

Every scam tell you "it's a sure win", "you can't lose", "guaranteed", "backed by _____", and so on.

Ever heard of the "Magic Cheese Ponzi"? Or the "Pigeon Ponzi"? How about the "Emu Ponzi" and "Sheep Ponzi"? Or the "Milk Ponzi"? You probably never heard of these, or zillion more Ponzi schemes like them. What they have in common is they had people believing that people should give them money for their "can't lose" ways to make money.

They all lied. There is no market for the alleged "magic cheese" to be bought by French cosmetic firms. There is no market for the pigeons bred and most had to be euthanized. Emu and sheep (as well as goat) Ponzi destroyed many poor farmers in India as there were no market for their products. There was no contract to supply milk to Disneyland.

Or for cases closer to home, Zeek Rewards lied about its penny auctions to be so profitable to be sharing the profits. TelexFree lied about the sales of the VOIP packages being so profitable to be sharing profits. And so on and so forth.

Yet these scams collected dozens to MILLIONS of victims (1.9 million in TelexFree, not counting the ones scammed by the Brazilian branch of TelexFree) to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars. Are all these victims stupid? Of course not. Most are incompetent to realize they are incompetent.

Some of the more... theatrical examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect were the "Telambo" (a TelexFree fan who dress up like Rambo), an TelexFree ice cream sundae (named by an ice cream vendor)... They were so convinced they were right, they can't even consider the possibility that they've been lied to all along.

Similar theatrical examples happened with ZeekRewards, where some people started a Change.org petition for the authorities to "leave Zeek alone" after it was closed by Secret Service and SEC raids. One such fan even left a note on the Zeek window which says "We forgive you. Please restructure and save our dreams. Signed: zeek affiliate".


This fan was so convinced that s/he was right about Zeek being a legal and profitable enterprise, s/he chose to believe the permanent closure of Zeek by law enforcement as a temporary setback that can be solved with a bankruptcy and reorganization. Indeed, the initial Secret Service and SEC staff that closed Zeek and started carting off boxes of documents were misidentified by Zeek fans as "Zeek staff", and the fans told the local papers so. It wasn't until the next day, when a Secret Service agent started taking statements in front of Zeek's front door that most people realize Zeek was done for.

So how can such people be dangerous? When they are so self-righteous (remember, they are overconfident, that they CANNOT CONCEIVE that they could be wrong) they are de facto accomplices to the scammers, by recruiting additional victims (often, friends and family) and passing on anecdotes like "it was so easy!""I did it and so can you!" or even "The product works great!" They also will not listen to advice from people who knew better, as they also CANNOT CONCEIVE the notion that other people could know more about the truth than they do. They will even automatically create reasons on why others CANNOT know more than they do, including "you must hate the owner", "you can't comment on what you haven't tried", "you are a part of conspiracy", and so on.

What Can You Learn From Them

Can you learn from these victims and not to be like them? It may be difficult as this runs counter to much of MLM culture.

Much of MLM and promotion in general is about confidence, yet as we explained earlier, high confidence about the wrong things are just... epic fails. And admitting one's lack of competence is completely against the notion of confidence.

Much of MLM is also about "avoid negativity", and this exacerbates one's inability to recognize competence of others (and your own incompetence), as you are basically ignoring people telling you that you are wrong.

As Greek philosopher Epicetus once said, "If one believes he knew all there is to know, then he will learn nothing." He is ignorant of his own ignorance.

Are you ignorant of your own ignorance? How will you find out and what will do about it?



Scammer Update: Sann Rodrigues (i.e. Sanderlay Rodrigues de Vasconcelos) posted bail for US crimes, rearrested for escaping from Brazil

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Previously MLMSkeptic has covered the various scams pumped by noted scammer Sann Rodrigues, whose real name is Sanderlay Rodrigues de Vasconcelos. For those who haven't caught up, here's a quick summary:
  • Universo FoneClub circa 2006, closed by SEC as Ponzi scheme
  • Tried to restart FoneClub in Brazil, closed after a year
  • TelexFree scam that was eventually shut down in 2014
  • iFreeX (meeting raided by Brazilian police in Feb 2015)
Back in February 2014 MLMSkeptic did a profile on Sann Rodrigues, here's a bit of an update. 

In April 2014, TelexFree tried to declare bankruptcy, and was immediately raised by Homeland Security and Mass Department of Securities. Their CFO Joe Craft tried to leave with a laptop bag he claimed was personal property. It was searched and TENS OF MILLIONS in cashier's checks was found in the bag and the entire bag was held for evidence. SEC filed its case under seal to be opened upon raid. . 

After TelexFree went bust in April 2014, it appears that Sann Rodrigues was still traveling the world, still selling TelexFree, but is looking for another scam to promote, and he seem to be the first person EVER to promote iFreeX as of September 2014, which, based on the name, appears to be at least inspired by, if not an outright clone of TelexFree, as it claims to be a communications app to do voice and text chat, video talk, and video conference. (TelexFree was VOIP, which is voice chat)  There are many who suspect that Sann Rodrigues was the real founder of iFreeX (though the real founder had not been identified thus far). 

Within 1 month, Massachussetts, where TelexFree was based, issued a warning on iFreeX being a scam and a clone of TelexFree. Sann Rodrigues then apparently deleted all the iFreeX content from his Facebook timeline. (it is widely believed that he then started a new one somewhere that only posts in Portuguese, hidden from public view) 

In Feburary 2015, Brazilian Federal police special unit GAEP raided an iFreeX meeting headed by Sann Rodrigues. Rodrigues was invited downtown for a long chat, and apparently had his passport confiscated and told "don't leave the area". Apparently the Brazilians want to talk about his tax evasion. 

Sometime after this, Sann Rodrigues apparently smuggled himself out of Brazil, violating the Brazil judicial order for him to stay put. This is serious enough, that the Brazilian police added him to an Interpol wanted list known as "red notice" (search for "vasconcelos") :


After that, nothing is heard of Sann Rodrigues except untraceable Facebook posts. That is, until his FB feed stopped updating on May 16th. 

Turns out he was nabbed by Immigration at Newark International Airport in New Jersey, on May 16th, after coming back from the Middle East, and charged with visa and immigration fraud. He was ordered to put up $200000 secured bond and had his passport and those of his family confiscated, PLUS electronic monitoring (i.e. ankle bracelet) and home confinement. 

Right about this time, iFreeX website went offline

Sann Rodrigues claimed he doesn't have the money for bail. On June 26th, his wife Camila finally coughed up the 200K for bond, and Sann Rodrigues may finally be released on bail...  But apparently not, as the Brazilian authorities, hearing about Sann Rodrigues' arrest, invoked their Interpol wanted notice and Sann Rodrigues was arrested right after he was "released" from ICE custody

It is unknown if Sann Rodrigues will be extradited as there's no official extradition treaty between US and Brazil. However, mutual police cooperation through Interpol is often done despite lack of such treaty. 

Bad Argument: The Evil Twin Did it

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When confronted with the news that their pet scheme may be a scam, victims of a scam react in various ways to deal with their cognitive dissonance, when two sets of facts collide as they can't both be true.

Some recoil in horror, realize they've been scammed, and quickly attempt to withdraw their money (which are usually stonewalled, leading to further desperation.)

Some are doubtful but vowed to stop taking their upline's word and do some honest research on their own

Some recoil and hide, denying that any "negativity" exists, and you should shut up because they don't want to hear about how they are wrong.

Some react with indignation and attempt to defend their scheme, but when they are armed with little more than PR material and fallacies like "I got paid so it's not a scam (to me)" they rarely have much success convincing anyone but themselves.

Some goes for "special pleading", i.e. come up with reasons why their scheme is the exception, not the rule, i.e. it fits all the definitions of a scam, but it's not a scam

Some go for a "no true Scotsman" gambit, claiming that the company itself is fine. It's only a few "rogue reps" that ruined things for everybody else.

Though recently, in span of a week or two, I saw a new variation on "no true Scotsman"... which I will call...

"The Evil Twin Did It!" aka "They stole our name!"




A certain defender of Emgoldex, upon being confronted with indictments against Emgoldex's US leaders, responded by claiming "they stole our name"
It is clear that this is another company violating the copyright protection of EMGOLDEX. That’s why it became fraud.
You see they have an INC in their company name. This four people are not the owners of the real EMGOLDEX. 
In other words, "that's not the 'real' Emgoldex! (It's just a few rogue reps!)" Which makes it a variation of "no true Scotsman", but it's interesting that he claimed "copyright violation", essentially claiming that the local reps "stole the Emgoldex name", thus making it a variant.

It is rather amusing to see a a scam defender claimed that someone stole a scam's name, as usually, it is a scam that stole somebody else's name, like Ripple Labs vs. Rippln . It's only even MORE hilarious when Emgoldex changed its name to Global Intergold only a few days later. Guess their name ain't worth much!

Then I noticed someone ELSE claimed to have their name stolen too. A scam called USFIA. Why do I say it's a scam? Because they appear to be a continuation of a scam that deceived thousands in China around 2014, and was chased out of multiple provinces and escaped to Thailand. Chinese cops went all the way to Thailand to arrest two perps in October 2014 and got them back to China to stand trial.

So it is rather amusing that there's an announcement on USFIA's website that claimed "we never authorized our name to be used", bilingual too, so I've added a notation or two, and the date the message was allegedly published.

Now you're probably wondering I brought this up, as it's pretty obvious that this is BEFORE the crackdown in China, right?

Not so fast. For one, Wayback Machine (from Internet Archive) shows no such page in 2014, and 2015. (click to see the whole thing at once)



Hardly conclusive, as maybe nobody added that page. However, given that the rest of the news pages were added to the archive, the lack of archive of this particular page suggests that this page was backdated. Certainly there's no corroborating sign that such an announcement was made except here, as it's found nowhere else.

So it's very likely this is another "they stole our name" bad argument, and now they've been prosecuted as a scam, they're doing the Mission Impossible thing... "We will disavow any and all of your actions." Of course, it in no way proves that the parent is not a scam.

It is even more interesting that John Wuo, 3-times Arcadia mayor and current city councilman, also used the same "I've been used!" excuse, when confronted.

In conclusion, if you want to use this excuse, don't. It makes no sense. It's just a theory that you have no proof other than your BELIEF that the parent company is not involved. And if you find the explanation used on you, be VERY skeptical, as it indicates that the speaker may be in a state of denial.

USFIA update: Who is Leonard S. Johnson and was he really invited to Dubai to speak about alternative currencies such as Gemcoin? (Hint: No)

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One of the most interesting (yet ridiculous) HYIPs based out of the US is USFIA, i.e. "American Mining" 美洲矿业, which was apparently kicked out of China in 2014. USFIA claimed to be a part of AFG (Alliance Financial Group USA) and controlled by UCCA, headed by Mr. Steve Chen.

Leonard S. Johnson
as shown on aimcongress.com
One of the frequent faces for USFIA is Mr. Leonard S. Johnson, who were mentioned multiple times as a stand-in for the head of USFIA Steven Chen at various seminars in Chinese-heavy cities such as SF Bay Area, Toronto, and so on.

There are various posts touting him being "invited to Dubai in UAE to attend AIM Congress, a gathering of the world's top economists, investors, and money big shots, and to speak there."

Is this real, or merely someone embellishing the facts? Let's find out.

If you search for Leonard S. Johnson Dubai, you will come across this page under aimcongress.com:


Which appears to be legitimate, until you realize it never said anything about what he will be speaking about. Indeed, there's no listing for him to speak AT ALL under "Speakers and Partners' contribution"    Searching the website for Leonard brought up that exact profile page, and nothing more. He's not listed on any sort of itinerary, speaker schedule, and so on. He's certainly not in the "Conference Programme" which lists every event, or in the brochure either.

If we search for AFG, we find a listing for GEMCOIN even though the profile is for AFG and USFIA. Even the website link goes to AFGroupUS.com.

There are two more mentions of AFG besides Leonard's profile and Gemcoin page though.



One: exhibitor's list. They got booth A-3B. which is a small booth. As for how small, here it is on the conference hall map (click for full-size version)



Two: they are "gala dinner sponsor", one of two.

Okay, so how much does it cost to sponsor the gala dinner? Good questions. In the 2014 price list, Gala Dinner Sponsorship costs USD 100000 (one hundred thousand dollars). As there are two sponsors, I assume they split the costs, so, 50000 dollars. It probably cost a little more now though.

So where were the perks of paying that 50K? Turns out the company rep gets to give a short speech during the gala dinner.


So to sum it up all, Leonard S. Johnson was PROBABLY NOT invited to speak at AIMCongress for his expertise. He was there because Steve Chen bought him a seat for $50K (or more) so some sheeple go "goo-goo gaa-gaa" over it.

Even now there are sheeple claimed that Johnson spoke to His Majesty at length about Gemcon. What likely happened is Johnson gave a 90 second speech about Gemcoin to the entire crowd who paid him no attention whatsoever, and the audience included His Majesty.

It's all about context, and scammers don't want you to know about context. They want you to be impressed.

Are you still impressed? How much publicity and credibility did that 50K buy?

USFIA Update: Was in China earlier than previous reported, but definitely originated in the US

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Searching for signs of USFIA, known in China as  美洲矿业 (American Continental Mining Industries, or just 'American Mining' for now), yielded a couple more links.

The earliest mention of American Mining was not in China, but in the US. A poster "Harryyu" posted a wanted ad in Southern California about "seeking USFIA sales rep for gemstone mining" dated 06-SEP-2013.




The earliest mention in China was a forum post in February 9th, 2014, where Mr. Ho Peng 候鵬 (surname is "Ho") made a big presentation in Qingdao, Shangdong province, China. You are welcome to Google translate the link, but I'll give you the TL;DR version:  Ho held a big meeting in the local 5-star hotel called Le Meridien  ( 青岛万达艾美酒店)  where Mr. Ho presented to a packed house full of MLMers from all over China for two hours. Ho claimed he had been in various MLM things for two years, and made over 20 million RMB and this American Mining will be the biggest next thing, and he had already made millions in this one, and he guarantees this is a sure win. Ho kept talking about his "aunt"姨媽 from Guizhou 貴州, who's a local fortune teller and told him he will make tens of millions. Everybody can believe this fortune.

Alleged insider claimed that Ho is the local Judas Goat and may be part owner. He was shifting money out of the country and already got a divorce to emigrate. He had to make "one last job" before disappearing from China. Another accused Ho Peng of swindling people using his aunt's name.
Ho Peng, in Macao 22-APR-2014, promoting USFIA

I won't bother translating the comp package, except to explain that if you buy in at packages of 2K, 5K, 10K, or 30K (RMB of course), you get either protostock, or actual amber, and you can trade the protostock with their platform.

Other news sources claimed that Ho Peng was doing the same schtick all over China, and claimed to be a standing member of UCCA. USFIA name was mentioned prominently. Here is Ho Peng doing his schtick in Macao in April 22, 2014. You can see USFIA and 美洲矿业 in the background. You can view the entire video here. Chrome users: Use incognito mode to bypass the "missing plugins" error.

Note that the video title is 美洲矿业中美政治协商促进会—侯鹏 which translates to "American Mining UCCA -- Ho Peng"

In a different copy of the video, Ho Peng got a different title: 美洲矿业中美政治协商促进会常务委员—侯鹏 which translated to "American Mining UCCA standing member -- Ho Peng"

And he apparently got an ID card from UCCA shown at the same event, vidcapped from a different video.



Back in the US, also on the ChineseInLA website, a user by the name of "Amber Dream" posted an ad copy under "China-US Commerce" topic on 20-FEB-2014.

Another forum post in China was made on March 8th, 2014 where similar allegations was mentioned and the meeting in Qingdao was again referenced, but this time with a promise that Ho will do a presentation in Beijing. It also mentioned that his biggest downline is a Mr. Wang  王軍 Wang Jun who also made millions.

The fortunes started to turn for USFIA in China around March 2014, as they are starting to attract the attention of the authorities all over China.






March, 2014, in Liaoning 遼寧 someone setup in some apartment's living room and talked to a bunch of seniors, hoping to entice them into putting in 12400 RMB. They started with just a "free dinner" invitation, then for those who seem somewhat interested, they were invited to a detailed seminar at this apartment, where the speaker even admitted they haven't gotten their direct sales license yet, but will 'soon'. And they also used the UCCA and USFIA Chinese names. A speaker named Professor Wang 王老師 was mentioned as a senior member. This was duly reported by the local newspaper on March 13th, 2014. The local Ministry of Commerce and Industry was alarmed at the revelation and agents from the ministry went to the location mentioned in the paper the very next day, March 14th, 2014, only to find that there's nothing there. And the phone number to Professor Wang was disconnected. There are suspicions that this Professor Wang is Wang Jun, top disciple of Ho Peng. The case was referred to local police and apparently filed away. However, USFIA continued to spread in China.

For reference, here's the comp plan used by USFIA in China, uploaded allegedly back in 30-APR-2014. It's in Chinese, of course.

An accusation claimed that China Unicom's manager Yan Bo 闫波, who was alleged to have accepted huge amounts of graft, had escaped to the US and is perpetrating this scam from afar. I personally see no veracity in this claim... Except I saw a claim on a FRENCH website, promoting Gemcoin, that Steve Chen was allegedly the FOUNDER of China Unicom 1993. That claim was impossible to verify, as China Unicom was a STATE Enterprise and was founded in 1994, so Chen's link to China Unicom was probably pure BS, but I find it rather interesting coincidence.

There were probably various presentations all over China by Ho Peng himself and his affiliates, but the net is closing in.

On May 13th, 2014 a Mr. Liu in Changde (Hunan Province) reported to police that he was the victim of USFIA scam. Had had given the scam 32500 RMB "long time ago" (few months?) and did not get paid any profit as promised. Changde police took this very seriously and started sharing information across China, and found reported victims in at least ten other provinces, as far as Xinjiang.  And a coordinated raid picked up 22 "core members" all across China, including Ho Peng, who was allegedly nabbed in Hunan. A certain Mr. Lu and Mr. Chen apparently escaped to Thailand before they can be nabbed.

(NOTE: Chinese media do not report full names of arrestees or wanted people. I'm piecing together from forum posts and such.)

At that time, various followers of the USFIA scam was told to switch to a new scheme called EGD Coin, and many suspected it's controlled by the same group of scammers. EGD coin appears to be some sort of cryptocurrency that was promoted to Asia, claimed to be accepted in over 20 countries, blah blah blah.   EGD Coin is actually E-Gold, a defunct scheme busted in 2007, only to have its name revived for another round of scamming.  Their website's still around... and available in English and Chinese.

Also, some sort of announcement was posted on UCCA's website, claiming that USFIA and UCCA's name was stolen by unscrupulous individuals to promote fraud and it was unauthorized. The post itself was dated June 2014. However, no such link was found in Wayback machine archive, thus there is a bit of suspicion that the announcement may have been backdated, or is this a 'we will disavow any and all of your actions" IMF situation.

From there on, the arrests in China were documented in my other blog post.


USFIA Update: Who is this security guard and was he also identified as gemstone appraiser?

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Previously, we've identified the USFIA shindig in Arcadia, where Steve Chen threw a party for "USFIA Club Grand Opening", where he threw a party, then started up a motorcade  to visit his closed Quail Lodge golf course and promised this will be developed into a huge profitable enterprise. This was back on May 29, 2015. John Wuo was present.

Also present was this security guard, in no less than three photos.

Security guard, photo 1 of 3, hiding in background to left

Security guard photo 2, posing with fellow guards and motorcade control, far right

Security guard photo 3 of 3, posing with fans with thumbs up sign
Do we agree that these three shows the photo of the same guy? Taller than most Chinese, stocky.




In fact, in the next photo, he's even identified as Security Guard Zhang by the newspaper. (I mistyped and put in Chang instead of Zhang, same thing, it's different way to write 张 in English)

Okay, do we agree now that this is a security guard? An armed security guard, but a security guard nonetheless, identified by newspaper reporting on the event as a security guard.

Now tell me, this this picture also him?


Do you agree that there's a high likelihood that this is the same security guard, albeit now in a suit? Good. Let me show you the WHOLE photo, with the translated captions.


That's right, this guy was presented at a Toronto USFIA seminar as "Professional Gemstone Appraiser"专业宝石监证司 John Zhang. Remember the security guard's surname was Zhang?

This is too much of a coincidence.

And yes, I got this off a news website too. January 24th, 2015, at Toronto. There are FOUR more photos of him so he was definitely there, as "pro gemstone appraiser John Zhang".

The most logical explanation is "pro gemstone appraiser" is fake. He's a security guard that also got into a bit of acting at the behest of Steve Chen or Leonard. Johnson. Any other explanation would require "doppleganger" or such exotic circumstances.

Still believe USFIA is real? Think again.



USFIA Update: Gemcoin ATMs (probably not) and warning in Spain about it being unlicensed investment

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NOTE: Previous coverage on USFIA can be found here

MLMSkeptic has a special disdain for someone scamming their own kind in order to get ahead, which is pretty much every scammer out there, when the truth is often in plain view, albeit the view may have been distracted.

A certain Gemcoin promoter online claimed that Gemcoin ATMs , THOUSANDS of them, will soon be distributed around the world, so people can get cash through their Gemcoin account. As an example, they showed two ATMs allegedly with Gemcoin listed next to the typical ATM logos like VISA / MASTERCARD / AMEX and so on.

Screencap'ed from investgemcoin.com
As you can see, that's "Gemcoin" 2nd from the right on the top row, and here's a guy that looks like he's getting money from it.

So why is there a "Gemcoin" logo's bottom showing just above the ATMs?

Turns out, these two are probably the ONLY ATMs that display the Gemcoin logo... because they are installed at Gemcoin HQ, i.e. UCCA / USFIA / AFG / whatchamacallit in Arcadia. Don't believe me? Here's a different angle of the same ATMs, from a different Gemcoin promoter:


Then consider this shot from the FRONT of the lobby... at the reception desk


One must conclude that the two confirmed-to-exist (whether you can actually convert Gemcoins to cash is a different matter) alleged "Gemcoin" ATM are located in the main lobby of USFIA/AFG, as this is the SAME paneling used in both pictures.  Albeit it's not in public view, but around the back.

Frankly, other than banks, the ONLY other locations with ATMs, esp. these free-standing kinds, are local convenience stores. You know, something like this:




The ATM is probably a Nautilus Hyosung 2700, which looks like this by default:

Aha, same sign "topper" and everything! So what USFIA did was they replaced the QUEST logo and put in Gemcoin instead on the "topper", the extra display board on top of the ATM itself.

FYI, the Nautilus Hyusong 2700 ATM can be purchased for $2500 (or less) each, depending on amount of options. What's REALLY intriguing is this model can also be ordered in "shell form" (i.e. screen and interface only, no cash dispenser or lock) as an upgrade to existing ATM. And obviously shell would cost even less, probably around $1500.

So to conclude this little intellectual exercise about Gemcoin ATMs

Q: Will there be thousands of Gemcoin ATMs deployed?

A: Only two were confirmed to exist, both of which are in USFIA HQ. And it is not proven they can access Gemcoin "ewallet" at all.

Q: Are there really ATMs that will let you withdraw Gemcoins to cash?

A: Probably not. These two in USFIA HQ are at best, two regular ATMs with custom "toppers" replacing QUEST logo with Gemcoin logo. At worst, they are shell display pieces, with no working innards.

Basically, for the price of $5000 or a little more they had created the illusion of Gemcoin ATMs.

That's cheap.

Bonus update: Spain had warned that USFIA is NOT authorized to offer investments in Spain.

You are welcome to check the site, and they even offer English version: "en Ingles"

http://cnmv.es/Portal/ResultadoBusqueda.aspx?tipo=3&nombre=USFIA%20INC


USFIA Update: Denial in Spain (and fun Spanish Vocabulary)

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As previously mentioned, Spain Official Agency CNMV (La Comisión Nacional del Mercado de Valores trans: National Commission on Markets and Values/Investments) issued a warning against USFIA (i.e. AFG / Gemcoin ) back on May 18th.

In Spain, such illegal unregistered investments, basically HYIP, are known as chiringuito financiero or "financial snack bars".  Chiringuito is an open air snack bar often found on Spanish beaches serving snacks and drinks where you order from a counter and find your own seats. Some are even mobile on a tricycle. Thus, a chringuito financiero is a ramshackle unregistered investment, often without even a physical presence, and only exists via phone calls, email, and websites.  And USFIA (AFG / Gemcoin) was identified as a chringuito financiero.

Normally that's hardly noticeable, as the commission issues dozens of warnings every year. However, one of the comments was quite interesting, on a newspaper called "ValenciaPlaza".


Translation: Israel G. Gomez wrote That is not the website of USFIA.  I see they have contrasted the news and have little idea of ​​what they say, deplorable!

So what website was CNMV talking about? "Usfiamlm.com"

FWIW, usfiamlm.com is now a parked Godaddy domain.  Well, if it wasn't guilty, why is it parked so early? It's not as if Guardia (Spanish Police) raided it, right?



If we check the Wayback Machine... They do have an archive as of October 5, 2014.  I've provided a quick translation.


There is no doubt that this is *the* USFIA, the one related to amber and Gemcoin. But just in case you're NOT convinced, here's what "Why USFIA" says:


In the order they are encountered:

"holding company called AFG (Alliance Financial Group)"

"with a bank in Malaysia, that in the past year paid out 1.5 billion to the beneficiaries"

"Mr. Chen"

"with Mayor of Los Angeles, Nixon's daughter, and ex-president of the US"

Interesting eh? 'mayor of Los Angeles' was clearly referring to John Wuo, who's ex-mayor of Arcadia, a suburb of Los Angeles.

Thus, there's no doubt that this was referring to AFG / USFIA / Gemcoin, the scam that was kicked out of China and chased all the way to Thailand by Chinese police.

The actual website does not matter. Indeed, by retiring the website, the scammers may have cut off one trail that's "easily accessible".

But it's clear that the Spanish authorities knew EXACTLY who they were warning against. 

Whoever this Gomez is... he's in denial.

USFIA Update: Turns out both the Chinese name and the English name may have been stolen

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Today, MLMSkeptic takes a deep dive into the Interwebs, to dig up who is the REAL "American Mining" (it's NOT USFIA), by looking at various corporate listings as well as news from Asia to prove that the name "American Mining" was stolen by USFIA.

USFIA which supposedly stands for US Fine Investment Arts, was known as 美洲礦業/美洲矿业 in Chinese, which translates to American Mining. Chinese Commercial Yellow Pages (CCYP) shows that they are the same:

Screen cap of Google Search Results for 美洲礦業, confirms that USFIA
is 
美洲礦業, which translates to American Mining
Furthermore, when the scam was active in China, it used the same logo and Chinese name. This is primary rep Ho Peng at such a seminar in Macao. Ho Peng was arrested in China in June 2014 along with 21 other promoters of USFIA 美洲矿业 in China.

Ho Peng, USFIA top rep in China, at a promo event in Macao April 2014.
Ho was arrested in June 2014 for his role in 美洲矿业 scam. 
And just to confirm, this always has been USFIA's logo. This is the current rendition of the logo:

"USFIA Inc. US Fine Investment Arts"
The address matches. This is indeed the USFIA in question. And this is a US Corporation registered in California by Steve Chen.

Profile for USFIA in California, which used Chinese name 美洲矿业
which means American Mining, even though USFIA
supposedly stands for "US Fine Investment Arts"

However, we do have a problem as there is already a 美洲礦業 in Shenzhen, China. As this is in China, the proper way to write it is 美洲矿业 (simplified Chinese).

And yes, they have a logo. This was from a talent wanted ad they posted earlier:

America Mine Holding Talent Wanted ad in China, short profile on company in Shenzhen, China

And this one is easy to verify via third party sources. Search for AA Mine Mexico brought up an official Mexican government listing of mining projects in Mexico with Foreign Capital:

Official Mexican Government website confirming AA Mine Holding is Chinese owned

Okay, sounds legitimate enough. Is there yet OTHER sources to prove this is the "real" 美洲矿业 , i.e America Mine Holding?

Absolutely!





Sure, how about a LinkedIn profile for their Chairman of the Board?

LinkedIn Profile for Farin Lee, Chairman of the Board for America Mine Holding
But wait, you said, anybody can type anything on LinkedIn. Is there something confirming THAT? Sure. Here's a press release from an official Chinese government website, confirming that Farin Lee Chairman, America Mine Holding, attended a convention in Hong Kong along with officials from this Ruichang City.

Screencap of Ruichang City Department of Commerce Press Release
of June 2012, where Farin lee of America Mine Holding attended. This is
NOT USFIA, but the REAL America Mine 美洲礦業
Thus it is confirmed that USFIA 美洲礦業 is a copycat flying another company America Mine Holding's Chinese name. But the name appropriation didn't stop there.

Previously we had explained that this "UCCA" used a Chinese name that is substantially similar to the Chinese Legislature. The Chinese name UCCA goes by is 中美政治协商促进会. The Chinese legislative body CPPCC is 中国人民政治协商会. They substituted 中国人民 (Chinese People) with
中美 (China America) and they added 促进 (promote) but the idea is UCCA wants to SOUND political and official, but their real name is:

UCCA is actually US-CHINA CONSULTATION ASSOCIATION LIAISON/CONSULTING SERVICES.
There are THREE WORDS missing from the abbreviation. 

It's not an agency, merely a 'consultant', and you notice they left out "liaison / consulting services" out of their own initials.

And finally... USFIA itself is not an original name. In fact, if you search for USFIA online, you'll find that USFIA is "US Fashion Industry Association".

In other words, EVERY ONE of the names involved has problems.

USFIA is redefining someone else's initials, and has NOTHING to do with mining as suggested in its Chinese name. 

The Chinese name of USFIA, 美洲矿业, was a clone of a real company in Shenzhen, China. 

UCCA conveniently left out a few words off their initials to sound far more official than it is. 

UCCA's Chinese name 中美政治协商促进会 appears to be a soundalike of a Chinese legislative body 中国人民政治协商会. 

Still think USFIA is legitimate? Think again. 



USFIA Update: What was USFIA doing before Gemcoin? Exactly the same thing... selling promises of amber

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Previously, we have established that the Arcadia based USFIA is the SAME "American Mining" scam that plagued China in 2014, and was destroyed in multiple raids in China as of June 2014. Its head in China, Ho Peng, was arrested in Hunan. The initial reporting agency, Changde police, even went to Thailand to arrest two that escaped there in November 2014.

USFIA had since published disclaimer that they never endorsed the company name being used for illegal purposes and basically disowned Ho Peng. 

But let us examine... Was USFIA doing anything different then vs. now? What was USFIA doing before 2015?

Here's the earliest mention of USFIA 美洲矿业... in California.

ChineseinLa.com classified ad in Chinese: American Mining needs gem commerce reps, dated 06-SEP-2013
They need reps to join US and Chinese markets, no requirements other than speak clearly and be nice
Note that they were looking for 加盟商 / Franchisee (30 of these), and 業務代表 / business rep.

Selling what? Gemstones? Or protoshares of whatever USFIA offers? Interesting, as we have no record of this.

What we *do* know is by March 2014, reps have indeed reached China, and is attracting official attention, because they do *not* have a direct sales license in China. So the reps all lied, claiming "it's coming soon". They attracted enough attention in Liaoning that local newspaper wrote an article on them, leading them to clear out overnight.

And this is their comp plan:

  • Invest $1000, $2000, $5000, $10000, or $20000, get "merchandise" and "business center", plus $100 yearly "maintenance fee". 
  • Get referral bonus (8% to 15% depending on how big the package your referral bought) 
  • Get Leadership bonus (get referral bonus of your upline and downlines down 3 generations)
  • Get Passive Monthly bonus (refer 1, get 1.75 shares, refer 2 get 2 shares)
  • Management monthly bonus (if you got 2 downlines who brought in 300K each (10000 USD = 1 point, so 30 pts) you get 20000 that month, and it goes up from there. 
  • Autoship bonus -- get a share of downline's purchases, if they maintain minimum of $100 per month, going down 12 generations
  • Travel bonus and Car bonus
Let's keep this in mind while we check into a bit of history. 

First, let us examine the an old Chinese news on sina.com.cn, reposting news from Hunan Daily:

hunan.sina.com news of 12-NOV-2014, reporting arrest by Changde police
in Thailand regarding the USFIA "American Mining" scam
The part I highlighted in blue is:

据常德市公安局透露,2013年10月,黑龙江人陆巍加入陈力、所罗门杨等人在美国洛杉矶设立的传销组织“美洲矿业”,并成为其在中国地区的传销组织领导人之一。“美洲矿业”在北京、新疆、湖南等地以投资琥珀期权、原始股为名,大肆招募会员。他们将其所销售的劣质琥珀冒充多米尼加蓝珀欺骗会员,还多次以“美洲矿业”之名,在中国举办传销宣传聚会。

Which translates to:
According to Changde Ministry of Public Security, Mr. Lu Wei (from Heilongjiang) joined in October 2013 the pyramid sales organization "American Mining" (USFIA) established in US Los Angeles by Chen Li and Solomon Yang, and became one of pyramid sales leaders in the China region. "American Ming" (USFIA) recruited heavily in Beijing, Xinjiang, and Hunan using the promise of profit from investments in amber options as well as protostocks. They used bad quality amber to pass for Dominican blue amber and defrauded the members, and several times used "American Mining" (USFIA) name to hold pyramid sales promotion and recruitment meetings in China. 
Li Chen (i.e. Chen Li 陳力)is Steve Chen, head of USFIA, UCCA, AFG, and so on and so forth. 

Thus, there is absolutely NO DOUBT this is the same organization, same head, same company. Arcadia is a suburb of Los Angeles. In fact, some Spanish speakers are known to have mistaken John Wuo, then mayor of Arcadia, as "mayor of Los Angeles". Tsk tsk tsk, can't they even check Wikipedia?

USFIA posted an announcement dated June 2014 that Ho Peng was a rogue operator and the company disclaimed any and all relations with him. Then in late 2014 they launched Gemcoin, allegedly "backed by amber". 

Frankly, this already smells like "same wine, new bottle", but let's make absolutely sure... what was AFG / USFIA / WHATEVER doing BEFORE the crackdown in China? 

Here is an video found on Tudou (Chinese Youtube), believed to have been uploaded by a Spanish affiliate of USFIA back around February or March 2014, of their visit to AFG/USFIA HQ in Arcadia California. And they were speaking Spanish, not Chinese. As Chinese New Years decorations are still in display this can't be much later than March, and it was showing AFG, so this is before the introduction of Gemcoin. The video was then reuploaded to China's Tudou by a USFIA affiliate in China who added an overlay for his own website (no longer in service).

AFG / USFIA lobby, circa approx. March 2014. Note this is pre Gemcoin, and around Chinese New Years
And just for comparison, this is USFIA lobby now:


Seems they replaced the back sign to say AFG / Gemcoin, but kept some of those Chinese lanterns in the back. But there's no doubt it's the same desk, same lobby.


NOTE: Following video uses the EMBED tag. If that doesn't work, use this link


Synopsis: The member, identified at the end as linked to "EdgarMotta.com", was lead around by two "great leaders", the male was "Geraldo" (Campos?), female was not identified. They were showing U-S-fia, which is obviously USFIA. They walked through the banquet room, then the amber showroom, with claims that some are million of years old, another claimed one of the amber there is worth millions. They also claimed that owner has owned mines in DR for years. Geraldo wanted people to join as fundadores, or "founders" (which may be referring to the protostocks).  Then they showed off leader "Aida", "practically a millionaire", Colombia? One door says "Great Eastern Immigration Services", where Geraldo claimed to provide EB-5 investment immigration visas. Another office was for Amauction but that was glossed over. Geraldo claimed that the main conference room was used to received President of China and President Obama. Geraldo then walked the group upstairs, to the real estate section of the business, with the plans of the houses and so on. Geraldo piled on 'these are the houses of your dreams' and so on. They even showed off the Quail Ranch Golf Club (closed) as "for members". Then they showed off the classrooms and conference rooms. The guy ended by emphasizing the thing is 100% legal, profitable and is the dream of various families to get ahead.

Just to reiterate the players:

Geraldo (surname unknown)
Geraldo, Spanish speaking leader of USFIA

Geraldo's fellow saleslady, name unknown

Spanish speaking leader of USFIA, name unknown

"Aida" 
Aida, "almost millionaire" in USFIA, maybe linked to Colombia

and finally, "Edgar Motta"
Edgar Motta, was from Colombia, now resides in Miami FL

Checking Google revealed that Edgar Motta was indeed in USFIA, as he used to have a Facebook avatar that shows this:

Google Cache of Edgar Motta's Facebook Avatar (no longer active)

Although his current avatar shows he's moved on to "TLC" a nutritional MLM. On the other hand, the picture is still available elsewhere:

Photo on USFIA Mundial, Motta sitting in USFIA's conference room CEO seat

Which Linked us to a Google + Group called USFIA Mundial. (USFIA World).

Promo slide on USFIA Mundial's website. 
And here is him showing off with "Rodrigo Meza" in the USFIA offices, which is, of course, also the offices of UCCA, as shown behind them:


Since the lobby still says AFG (between them in front of the entrance) this is in 2014 before Gemcoin. It is also interesting to note that the photos shared in the G+ group has NO mention of HOW the money's made, just that "amber is certified", and this company will help you live your dream of living in the US with your family to earn money and join a legal opportunity if you join (his) team. 

Please note that Motta was mentioning "founders" in the video, which means investing. USFIA is NOT registered investment with the SEC. Some of the real estate REITs may be, but not USFIA. No mention of Gemcoin at all. The whole video is a feel good piece, about how real the company is, how big, how solid, how diversified, how your money will be secure, how families will be helped, blah blah blah.

Makes you wonder why there is absolutely NO MENTION of USFIA on his webpage and Youtube channel, hmmm? Even this video was copied and uploaded by somebody to China's Tudou, not the US.

Seems even they realized they joined a scam, doesn't it?

But that's actually besides the point. Now, remember I've shown you the comp plan for the OLD USFIA, as used in China. Remember?

So what's USFIA's comp plan now? BehindMLM has a full com plan, but let me give you the summary:
  • Invest $1000, $2000, $5000, $10000, or $30000 of Gemcoins (0.05 cents each)
  • Get referral bonus (flat 10% commission for each package)
  • Get additional commision bonus down 12 levels
  • Leadership bonus (if you recruit 7 affiliates, or recruited 2 who each brought in 2 more, you get 100% match of their upline's "binary" earnings)
  • Get residual / binary commission depending on amount put in, from 8 to 15%
  • Get matching bonus going down 3 levels on the binary bonus
  • Management Monthly Income star system
  • Travel bonus and Car bonus based on binary earnings over 3 consec cycles
As you can see, this is SUBSTANTIALLY the same comp plan that was busted in China, with only MINOR variations, like flat 10% instead of varies between 8-15%, and so on.

USFIA's model never changed. It has always been "invest in the company, get a share of our amber profits". After they got busted in China, they added a layer of Gemcoin, so it's now "invest in Gemcoin (owned by the company), get a share of our amber profits."

In China they've already been accused of using lousy amber to pass for DR blue amber by the authorities. I seriously doubt they would have reformed much.

Beware. The real insiders already quit. Solomon Yang is no longer with the company. These Spanish speaking guys appear to be gone too. That's why they're sending the black dude Johnson out and going after new markets... like the Chinese American market in US and Canada, and European market, where they hopefully don't read Chinese news.

But now you know the truth. Use it wisely. 

Scam Psychology: How does a scam encourage people to adopt a lost cause?

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When one questions scams and suspect schemes for as long as the MLMSkeptic did, one'd seen a lot of things, such as people claiming that they forgive ZeekRewards Ponzi even before we knew the full extent of damage (just under a billion dollars), how Paul "ZeekRewards" Burks told newspaper "don't blame me, I never told them to invest more than they can afford", and so on.

Jael Phelps picketing Trinity Episcopal Church...
Jael Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church picketing Trinity Episcopal Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma
(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
However, some time the... fanaticism of certain fans of particular schemes rival that of the pro-life-crazies (who had assassinated doctors that performed abortions, for example, try reconciling that!), or perhaps those of Westboro Baptist Church (well-known crazies of the US). Others appear to be willing to "go down with the ship".

A recent example is Emgoldex, which just rebranded itself as Global InterGold, and some "diehard" Emgoldex fans, eager to defend their own stance on the scam, engaged in conspiracy theory with zero regard to logic.

I won't bore you with long history of Emgoldex. Suffice to say this European based Ponzi scheme had spread via help of the Internet, and nobody really knows where it's being ran out of (may have been Russia) but it was denounced as illegal all over the world, including the US (both state and Federal level), Malaysia, Philippines, even Dubai UAE where it allegedly was based out of.

Yet there are still backers who claimed that "you just don't understand Emgoldex", "you just don't understand MLM", "you are prejudiced against MLM", and so on and so forth. You can find many of them in the comments on this topic.  Some of them are certain of their righteous cause, others are somewhat doubtful but "hopeful" that they had made the right choices, even when facts started to stack against them.


First, just to explain, a "precious metal MLM" makes no sense economically. Precious metals such as gold and silver have well known world "spot" market prices that you can look up much like stock prices. Thus, nobody would agree to pay a large premium over the spot price. Yet for MLM to exist, one generally have to include enough margin, 35-40% according to MLMLegal.com on top of the cost of the item to pay commissions. That means for a precious metal MLM to exist for real, and assuming the members are willing to tolerate a 10% surcharge (i.e. pay 10% ABOVE market rates) the company still have to somehow find gold at 25% BELOW MARKET RATE to pay out commission at a typical comp plan. That is clearly impossible. Which is why precious metal MLM makes no sense. It must be a scam. And we know that Emgoldex was already accused of being a scam in multiple countries.

Yet here's a TL;DR version of the various "arguments" from the Emgoldex fans:
  1. Visit a PO Box to determine whether the company's legitimate or not (yes, PO Box)
  2. Refuse to accept that the PO Box is a company registrar / maildrop, not a real office
  3. I got paid so it can't be a scam (to me, and me alone, and I insist that you take my word for it)
  4. You don't know how it works (you can't, since what you say is clearly NOT what I believe)
  5. You don't know how MLM works (at a website called "BehindMLM.com") 
  6. It's not the "real" Emgoldex. There's an evil doppleganger out there ruining its good name! (I really have no proof of such, but I refuse to accept my scheme is evil, so it must be evil twin!)
  7. You are prejudiced against MLM (and I insist we're MLM, not pyramid or Ponzi scheme!)
1 and 2 are idiotic


4 and 5 are variations of "you don't know the real story"  and covered here as well
6 is a variation of "no true Scotsman" argument  

7 is a standard sour grapes argument with a touch of Dunning-Kruger effect.

English: Willet on the beach.
English: Willet on the beach. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
All in all, these affiliates are just... delusional, as they shift from one excuse to another, sometime abandoning the field altogether, probably to "get away from the negativity" and so on and so forth.

Bird's occasionally bury their head in mud, but only because they need to dig at a fish hidden in the mud. They don't do it all the time. (And the story that ostrich bury their heads? Completely false.)

People who avoid reality will bury their head against the truth, except truth is like air... you can't avoid it. You can occasionally escape into your private fantasy, but you can't live long-term like that, except in "looney houses" (i.e. mental institutions).

But that's what scammers WANT you to do... isolate you from the truth, making you believe that the real world is false, that they hold the truth (and you need to PAY for it). Much like cult leaders do their their sheeple, so do scammers.

But that requires you to GIVE UP your reality, and accept theirs.

Why should you? 

Scam Tactic: Gaslighting (indignant denial)

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English: This bright gas lamp has three mantle...
English: This bright gas lamp has three mantles in UK
 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Ever heard of "gaslighting"?

From Wikipedia: Gas-lighting (or gaslighting) is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted or spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser, or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception, and sanity.

Scammers LOVE gaslighting, because they need to destroy victim's sense of reality, so they can substitute their own alternate reality, where selling is buying, black is white, and profit is loss.

Scammers deny facts that they don't want to explain (i.e. inconvenient truth). They will insist that the victims remembered it wrong. It wasn't like that. If victim is already weak-willed, victim will question his or her own reality... Did it happened the way I remembered it, or did I just imagined it? Was the way I learned selling really what selling means?

Scam victims who complained are dismissed as "whiners" and shouted down by shills, denigrated as "unbelievers" who "do not share the vision". Often, there are outright threats, from threats to cancel membership (triggering FOMO, fear of missing out), to verbal abuse to threats of physical abuse to legal threats (Cease and Desist orders) to even death threats. The victims were ostracized and put down emotionally, manipulated into believing it was their own fault for failing, that the system worked for everybody else, thus it must be the victim's own fault. Any one who failed is automatically weak, unbelieving, and sometimes, traitors who want to blame their own failings on the organization, and so on.

Pyramid schemes are very good at that. If one wins, the system gets credit as "the system works!" Individuals get no recognition unless some are needed to be shown in award ceremonies, but only to entice people who are on the fence. If one does NOT win one is blamed for the failings, as in "You must have screwed up! It worked for everybody else!"



Scams are also very good in getting the victim to ignore all the negative signs, such as government warnings, logical gaps, and so on.

Often, ignoring warnings signs are done in the name of "positivity" (ignore the "naysayers") by minimizing them. If the victim brought it up, victim are put down with various excuses such as

  • "that's just a rumor" (and you should be ashamed for bringing it up) 
  • "that's a temporary condition" (and your lack of faith saddens me)
  • "that's the process of transition" (and it can only get better)
  • "they don't know what they are talking about" (trust me, I know, even if I don't tell you)
  • "they don't have the facts, trust me on this" (not that I'd tell you everything, of course) 

and so on and so forth.

After a few of these, victim will no longer dare to bring up any questions or complaints. Victim has acquired "learned helplessness". It's no use to try.

After weeks or months of this, victim had been gaslighted so much victim believes anything his/her leader says without question. Victim's own reality no longer exists. Victim will no longer doubt his/her leader. Victim had been brainwashed into unquestioned loyalty.

Scammers gaslight for various reasons, but the simplest reason is simply greed. They will make a sale doing anything, including lying, and spin ever more elaborate lies, if you will stay and put more and more money in. They even even get addicting to the lying, as they enjoy being the center of attention and adoration being the "success" that they supposedly are. Remember, MLM is very fond of "fake it till you make it". They say it's a way to "pre-imagine success for motivation. It however, is also a way to encourage lying.

How do you know you are being gaslighted? Here are a couple questions to ask yourself:

  1. Do you feel that something's not quite right, even though you can't quite say what it was? 
  2. Are you being told to IGNORE such voices nagging at you to be careful? That you need to ignore doubters and be bold, even when the doubts make perfect sense? 
  3. Are you getting contradicting stories from different "sides"? Are the supposedly "facts" from uplines and organization not matching news coming from OUTSIDE such? 
  4. Are you being prohibited or discouraged from asking for third-party opinion, analysis, or confirmation? 
  5. Are you told that you are always wrong and the leader is always right? 
  6. Are you told that your family and friends are wrong and the leader is always right? 
  7. Are you told that "they say" whatever you do is wrong, but "they" were never identified? 
  8. Do you automatically blame yourself for not doing enough, even though you gave it your all? 
If you see more than 3 of these signs, you may have been gaslighted. Beware. 

USFIA Update: Who are they trying to fool with these "screenshots"?

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A few days ago, the "official"Facebook page of Gemcoin / USFIA posted this:

Facebook post by Gemcoin / USFIA official page
Can you see the problems? No?

The "Blockchain Wallet" is the first problem.  Blockchain never heard of Germcoin.

Second one requires a bit closer look.... Look carefully:

Getting the details of one of those pictures... See the problem yet? 
Do you see the problem yet? No? Let's go a little closer:

The title says: [unreadable Chinese] Gemcoin Wallet.pdf -- Adobe Reader
That's right, you're looking at a photo of PDF being displayed on a computer screen. In fact, if you open Adobe Reader XI now, you should see the SAME toolbar. Here, I'll even show you.

Screenshot of Adobe Reader toolbar / menu bar
They're showing off a PDF file and claiming it "proves" that their cryptocurrency blockchains are working?!?!?!

How stupid do they think people really are?


USFIA Update: If you or family or friend invested in Gemcoin, a US Reporter Would Like to Talk To You

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Following comment was left on BehindMLM website, and the email address is verified.

Posted by: Carol Matlack
Jul 16th, 2015 at 10:16 pm  (Q)
Hello, I am a journalist with Bloomberg Businessweek magazine. I’ve been doing some research on USFIA and the Gemcoin, and I’m interested in speaking with investors and friends & families of investors, about their experience.
The moderator of this forum has kindly agreed to post my email address so you can contact me: cmatlack@bloomberg.net (This address will only be posted here for a week, so please make a note of it if you plan to contact me.) Thank you.
And just in case, here's Chinese version:
您好我是彭博商业周刊(Bloomberg Businessweek) 的记者。我一直在做关于USFIA和Gemcoin珍寶幣研究,而我想知道投资者和投资者家庭朋友的经验。本次论坛的主持人也欣然同意貼我的电邮地址,以便你可以与我联系:cmatlack@bloomberg.net(此地址将只被张贴在这里一个星期,所以请记下它,如果你打算与我联系。 )谢谢。

I have no doubt some Gemcoin supporters will spam her account with promo material, about how nothing is wrong and a couple haters are spreading "lies" about Gemcoin. Good, show her why you tell the truth and everybody else ain't.

And if you are on the side of justice and truth, and you have some personal experience on Gemcoin (maybe you were in that "motorcade" that went to Quail Ranch?) let her know.

And as original comment stated, this will only stay up for ONE WEEK STARTING TODAY.

EDIT: And a shoutout to the SierraMadreTattler.blogspot.com, fellow blogger keeping track of the situation in Sierra Madre, neighbor of Arcadia! Thanks for the repost! I added the Chinese translation after you reposted it, sorry!


MLM Basics: Is Multi-Level Marketing a Shared Delusion?

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In a blogpost back in 2014, author Robert Fitzpatrick, who operates the website PyramidSchemeAlert postulated that Multi-level Marketing, i.e. MLM is really a delusion that redefined various terms to create a myth around itself that cloaked its true nature (as a part of his "Myths of MLM" series). It is an interesting viewpoint, and I can see how he came to that conclusion. The premise can be narrowed down to five separate yet related delusions that MLM participants perpetuate. Fitzpatrick claimed that by accepting the myth jargon, the participants gave the MLM myth power over themselves.

The MLM Myth has five major components, according to Fitzpatrick:

1) MLM is described as "direct selling", but few if any participants actually make retail sales or profits from such.

2) MLM is described as "income opportunity" even though most MLM participants lose money.

3) MLM is described as a "business" even though there is no fair exchange of value... Majority of people lose money.

4) MLM is described as "legal" even though it's merely "have not been proven to be illegal", i.e. presumed innocent

5) MLM is described as "network", "relationship", "personal" even though it disrupts the social norm.

Let us examine each part and see if Mr. Fitzpatrick is right.

Is MLM really Direct Selling? 

From my personal experience, most people in MLM had learned to emphasize the "multi-level" part of MLM rather than the "marketing" part. I have read comments of hundreds of people on BehindMLM and many commenters believe one cannot succeed in MLM without recruiting, and the emphasis should be on recruiting and retaining downlines, rather than product sales. Not that BehindMLM attracts the "typical" MLMer, of course.

It is also interesting that the MLM industry association is called Direct Selling Association, even though the organization actually predated MLM by about 20-30 years. DSA started its life as "Agent Credit Association" in 1910, and its members are companies that employed door-to-door sales, and Avon, then known as California Perfume Company, was a founding member. It wasn't until 1968 that it adopted its current name, Direct Selling Association.  Most people accept that MLM was popularized with California Vitamin Company, later Nutrilite, in the 1930's, which eventually became an Amway brand, founded in 1950's. Thus, MLM came AFTER direct selling, but took over the name direct selling.

For what it's worth, Avon was direct sales up to 2005, when it went multi-level. Didn't seem to help its bottom line though.

There is no doubt that MLM is supposed to have a direct sales component, but in reality, this is rarely put into practice. When the companies themselves count purchases BY the distributors as "sales" for calculating commission, instead of actual retail sales by the associates, there really is little if any incentive to retail. Even Direct Selling Association want to formalize "self-consumption" as a RIGHT of MLM distributors, i.e. they have the RIGHT to NOT retail what they buy, and still have that counted for commission. A couple states even put that into law thanks to lobbying by DSA.

Indeed, in the past decade or two DSA has fought every attempt by various groups to require the companies to document how much retail was actually performed by the industry. Any stats they compile are based on estimates by the companies themselves based on sales to distributors.

In 2013/2014 Herbalife was accused by none other than Bill Ackman to be a huge pyramid scheme. You'd think that Herbalife would simply produce some numbers proving they were retailing their products, and if they didn't, they have a WHOLE YEAR to gather that data, but no, instead, it spent money on hiring lobbyists instead, and hire survey teams, but NO ACTUAL RETAIL FIGURES. And DSA said nothing, because DSA is not a regulatory body... DSA is a lobbying organization for the companies.

Think about it. The Direct SELLING association does NOT want its members to prove they are actually SELLING stuff, through their distributors, to the public. And claims it is a RIGHT for distributors to NOT SELL their stock.

Verdict: MLM is now mostly NOT direct selling, even though it was meant to be.

Is MLM really an income opportunity? 

Proponents of MLM claimed this is a way to earn supplemental income, part-time income, side job, with potential transition to full-time if you find yourself attracted to it.

The REAL pros in the business knows that to make serious income in MLM you need to dedicate two to five YEARS to build your organization and during which you will achieve MINIMAL income.

Thus one can be answered pretty definitively: NO, not for a vast majority of the people involved.

From DSA's own statistics for 2014:
  • 18.2 million people involved in direct selling
  • Estimated product sold 34.47 billion dollars
That's average SALES of... $1894 dollars per person PER YEAR. And that's just revenue, not profit. We haven't taken into account any of the expenses involved either. Even if the person was able to achieve 50% profit, (i.e. $947) AFTER counting expenses (highly unlikely), and spent only two hours a week on this... That's only that's $9.10 per hour, not much above Federal minimum wage of $7.50 an hour.

Furthermore, Herbalife, in their own defense, claimed that 73% of their own distributors DID NOT JOIN FOR INCOME. This is one of their own slides released as rebuttal of Bill Ackman's claim that Herbalife is a pyramid scheme.
Herbalife, in 2013, claimed that 73% of distributors did NOT join for income as primary reason

Thus, MLM can be an income opportunity... for a tiny minority of people who made it to the top. The rest of you are likely to lose money or earn minimum wage, or not even that, as you get no benefits or even income security, unlike a minimum wage job.

Verdict: MLM in general is not income opportunity (with small exceptions)



Is MLM really a business? 

MLM is invariably described as a home-based business you can start with minimal startup costs. Robert "Rich Dad" Kiyosaki, former Amway ambot, is popular with the MLM crowd because he claimed that MLMers are business owners, by owning a piece of the system. He specifically said "network marketing is what I recommend for people who want to move to the B(usiness owner) quadrant". However, there are many problems with this train of thought.

Fitzpatrick points out that if majority of MLM participants lose money even though they invest time and effort, then there is no fair exchange of value, which is a fundamental part of any legitimate business.

But it's simpler than that. A business, per dictionary.com, 3rd definition is:
... a person, partnership, or corporation engaged in commerce, manufacturing, or a service; profit-seeking enterprise or concern.
As we had established in the previous question, if MAJORITY of participants lose money, then can MLM be termed a "business"?

And remember Herbalife claimed that MAJORITY of their distributors did NOT join to seek income? Here, let me show you their slide again:
Herbalife, in 2013, claimed that 73% of distributors did NOT primarily join for income
So instead of distributors... they are actually CUSTOMERS. Instead of selling, they are BUYING.

MLM is a marketing method, not a business model . The last M stands for "marketing", and marketing is meant to sell goods or service.  In answering the first question, we have established that MLM has little if any emphasis on selling product or service. It also is NOT profitable for majority of its participants. The only logical conclusion is MLM has devolved to sell itself instead of products or services.

Marketing designed to sell itself (i.e. recruit more members) instead of products is called a pyramid scheme, aka "endless chain" and is illegal. Which brings us to our next question.

Verdict: while MLM can be a business, evidence suggest that it's far more likely to be an illegal pyramid scheme

Is MLM really legal? 

Most people AUTOMATICALLY assume that MLM is legal, but is it really?

It has been in MLMSkeptic's experience that most MLM participants have NO IDEA what makes a MLM legal or illegal. They generally have some vague (and mistaken) notions that "If it pays, it's not a scam", "it has products or services, therefore it's not a pyramid scheme" or even "if it were illegal the government would have shut them down long time ago". When questioned, few if any can actually name the law or decision that defined the modern MLM.

The case that defined MLM started in 1975, when FTC sued Amway, alleging Amway was a pyramid scheme. In 1979, FTC settled with Amway when Amway agreed to reform its practices so their business model no longer triggers the "Koscot test" which determines if a business is really a pyramid scheme. The reforms became known as the "Amway Safeguard Rules" which other MLM businesses adopted, hoping that it will similarly save them from FTC prosecution. Basically, the argument is "We are like Amway, therefore we are legal." but the reality is "We are kinda like Amway, and Amway is not illegal (back then)."

Since then there were several cases, at both Federal and State level, about pyramid schemes, including Omnitrition case and Burnlounge case, among many others. California successfully forced out "YTB", alleging it to be a travel-based pyramid scheme many years ago, on a state level.

So what does this have to do with modern MLM, if they all adopted Amway Safeguard Rules? Simple: because schemes evolve. What constituted sufficient safeguards in 1979 may not be sufficient today, with the preponderance of "product-based pyramid schemes", where products are used to disguise the movement of money in a pyramid scheme. On the surface, product-based pyramid scheme (PBPS) looks just like a regular MLM.

So how do you tell PBPS apart from MLM? Pretty simple... How much of their sales is true retail, i.e. sold to the public, not distributors? If a MAJORITY of their sales ends up in the public's hands, they are MLM/DS. If not, distributor is not really distributor, but recruiter-customer, and makes money by recruiting yet more distributors recruiter-customer, making the whole thing an endless chain pyramid scheme.

MLMs that had adopted Amway safeguard rules should have no problem proving it has plenty of retail.  Amway Safeguard rules, one of which, known as "10 retail customer rule", stated that each distributor needs to sell to ten different retail customers a month to qualify for commissions.

So why were DSA and the largest MLM companies, such as Herbalife, resisting any attempt to find out how much products actually were retailed?

The only logical conclusion is MLM had thrown out at least 1/3 of the Amway Safeguard rules out the window a long time ago. MLM IS VERY LIKELY NO LONGER LEGAL.

Verdict: MLM can be legal, but there's no way for you, the average layperson, to know for sure about a particular company, if the company does not release such data, and often, it refuses to even collect such data. And without the Amway safeguard rules, you as distributor are the real losers.

Is MLM really socially disruptive? 

There is no doubt MLM is socially disruptive, because it mixes market norm with social norm, two domains that are normally separated.

You don't know what that means? Hmmm... Ever seen the movie "Indecent Proposal", where a millionaire offers $1 million bucks to sleep with the just married pretty wife? It's been told as a joke since at least 1937, and with various famous personalities substituted. It generally goes like this:
He: Would you sleep with me for $1 million dollars?
She: Sure, why not.
He: How about $5?
She: (Angrily) Who do you think I am?
He: We've already established that. We're just haggling over the price.  
It's humor, albeit somewhat crude, and it's funny because it clashes our social norms with our market norms. The social norm says you can't pay for love or friendship, otherwise you're dealing with a prostitute or sycophant, not true lover or friend.

In a similar idea, your friends who came to help you move, will probably be extremely offended if you try to slip each of them a $5 at the end of the day.  You're trying to respond to a social norm (thanks, guys) with a market norm (Here's $5).

Yet that is exactly what MLM does. Most MLM training will have you start by compiling a "warm list", i.e. people you already know somewhat, even though you may not have contacted them for YEARS, and go after them first. It is not unusual to have strangers who call you up, and claimed they knew you from school 10-20 years ago... then they mention they have this great opportunity they would like to introduce you to, i.e. recruit you. You're thinking "catching up on old times", they instead want to talk $$$$.

No wonder why people find MLM to be polarizing... you love it... or you hate it with a passion, and the "haterz" far outnumber the lovers.

But this has a secondary effect... it turns the participants into social pariahs to be avoided at all costs, which only encouraged them to throw it "all in" to MLM, because "nobody else understands".

Verdict: MLM is extremely polarizing and may turn you into a social pariah among your friends and family, on- or offline, esp. if you learned from people who taught you to go after your friends and family first.

Overall Verdict: Fitzpatrick is mostly right

While there are small exceptions in each of the 5 cases Fitzpatrick brought up, all five are "generally" true (most of the time). To recap:
  • MLM had lost its will to direct selling
  • Most MLM participants lose money and thus cannot be "income opportunity"
  • Thus, MLM cannot be a business, as it neither sells products nor profits participants
  • Which makes MLM an illegal pyramid scheme in most cases
  • and even if it isn't, you risk being turned into social pariah when you join
Thus, MLM can be termed a shared delusion designed to profit the early joiners and the corporate leaders at the expense of the participants. 

There are bound to be people who disagree, so, keep it civil, and I may approve your comment even if I don't agree with you. If all you want to do is spam, vent, or sprout logical fallacies, you may find your comment / reaction being ridiculed. 

USFIA Update: Is USFIA involved in child labor exploitation of amber mines in Mexico?

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Thanks to SierraMadreTattler, MLMSkeptic was recently made aware of an article published back in May 2015 that certain unnamed Chinese has been hiring anybody who can work (including children) in the tiny town of Simojovel, in Chiapas, Mexico, to mine amber. Children as young as 7 were hired to work in the amber mines, often during school breaks, with promise of pay of up to $500 pesos per day. Many even die in the mines.

But is there any link to USFIA? We don't know as USFIA does not specify if they use any Mexican amber. In fact, most of their amber mining references are about amber mining in Dominican Republic. However, since each affiliate prepare their own slides based on whatever sales meeting they attended at USFIA HQ, they often have additional insight, such as the one I found here:

USFIA affiliate states that Chen Yan, VP of USFIA, frequently travels to factory (mine?) in Mexico
and Dominican Republic, and stated their mine seems to be in a TINY village in Mexico. 
So here, we have an USFIA affiliate claiming (based on his attending USFIA HQ seminar) that no less than Chen Yan, Steve Chen's brother, visiting Mexico to check up on factory (mine?) of amber. And it's in a tiny village.



But what did the ORIGINAL Mexican news article say? It says that Chinese owners are cheating and smuggling and exploiting Mexicans in Mexico. Three years ago, Chinese arrived in the municipality of Simojovel, in Chiapas Mexico, which is about as far south in Mexico as you can get and still be in Mexico. They only stay in hotels and sometimes dine in the local Chinese restaurant, and NEVER visit the mines. Only their local intermediaries came out to the mines and buy up the best pieces.

The kids can't work INSIDE the mines, so what they do is they pick through the discarded rocks for amber that was overlooked. According to locals, a kid called Elias, 14, had just found a 900 g piece when he was crushed by a rock. Kids as young as 7 do the picking.

The area is also overran by the narco cartels who use the wilderness to grow marijuana. It's even rumored that the miners are hooked on cocaine and works 9 hours a day and pay for the coke with the mined amber.

While this is a sad story, let's keep in mind there is no proof that the Chinese in Simojovel were linked to USFIA, It's just a horribly "convenient" coincidence that such stories became... common.

Furthermore... It's worth noting that USFIA started in 2012/2013, which is... about 3 years ago.

Hmmm...


Scam Tactics: Two-face... being very different things to different people

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One of the most memorable villains to Batman is Two-face, formerly district attorney Harvey Dent. After a severe injury that left him scarred on half of his face, he developed full blown schizophrenia: two completely personalities depending on which side is talking to you.

And guess what company is acting like Two-Face? Herbalife. To lawmakers, it's presenting itself as a company that's changing lives, and it's FLYING IN members from across the country to show them off in Washington D.C. to, quote, "talk about the benefits of Herbalife's science-based nutrition products. Members will also be sharing their own experiences and the income-generating opportunities available to Herbalife members through hard-work and dedication", as per Herbalife's own press release.

Why are a bunch of distributors talking "science-based nutrition", not scientists and nutritionists?

Furthermore, why are these 12 members talking about "income-generating opportunities available to Herbalife members" when Herbalife itself stated that 73% of members did NOT join Herbalife for income as a primary reason? Are 9 of these 12 NOT going to talk about the opportunities, as Herbalife itself claimed?
Herbalife rebuttal slide, page 91, circa 2014
Of course not. Herbalife flew these 12 in because they are bright-eyed and bushy-tailed enthusiastic distributors (sheeple?) properly trained in Herbalife's alternate reality. They may be telling the truth as they know it, but it's not "the" truth, and they sure do NOT represent the rank and file as Herbalife want Congress to believe.

In the meanwhile, Herbalife is hiring as many high-level government people as it can, as well as lobbyists. But that's not the other face. The other face is the Herbalife convention in St. Louis.



On July 10th, the Herbalife Extravaganza happened in St. Louis, where 25000 people packed into a convention center and cheer each other on... to buy more Herbalife stuff.

But you ask, wait, weren't the Herbalife distributors supposed to SELL the stuff? Indeed, that's what the attendees say, quoting from the above link:
"Based on interviews with convention attendees, the company appears to attract many people new to the retail business but looking for career changes."
But that's absurd, when Herbalife itself stated that 73% of distributors joined to get discount product purchase. Indeed, according to Herbalife's own income disclosure, "434,125 Distributors (88%) received no payments from Herbalife during 2012." That makes the median income effectively zero.

Sort of makes you wonder: How can Herbalife talk about "Our distributors are changing lives and selling a lot of stuff" on side side, then on the other side claim "Most of our distributors didn't join to sell stuff?"

There is only one explanation: Two-face. Indeed, consider this sentence, again, from its own income disclosure:
"51.0% of all sales leaders as of February 1st, 2011, requalified by February 1st, 2012 (including 33.5% of first time sales leaders)"
What happened to the other 49% of sales leader that did NOT re-qualify? They did not build enough sales volume to keep their sales leader status, which means they quit or they can't replenish their downlines that quit.

Considering that "sales leaders" only comprise 82K of that 424K total distributors, that's less than 20%. This suggests that the average number of downlines per leader is a mere 4.

Now you see why Herbalife *has* to adopt the Two-face strategy... It is like a shark... It must continue recruiting to replenish the people who quit, to "feed the churn". And it kept recruiting people through those conventions, and KEEPING them in, by teaching the new recruits to lie to themselves. And these people are LYING TO THEMSELVES: they buy the stuff, telling themselves they're going to sell the stuff... But what they really do is consume the stuff, "because I believe in them", thus, no refund! After a few months, they got nothing to show of it, except hoping their recruit keep going. However, their recruits (downlines) will probably quit because they eventually realized they had been lied to, and when these people realize they've been lied to, they will quit as well, and all these losses had to be replaced.

The only people who succeed are the ones who 1) got in early and built-up enough people recruiting people to "build an organization / team" that is self-perpetuating, i.e. the downlines can keep recruiting to replace any losses without too much personal intervention, and 2) retained enough downlines through charisma, intimidation, cult tactics, bribery, bullying, or whatever worked.

But the company don't care what tactics you used... As long as you and your downlines keep buying those products. They don't care if you retail them or not, as long as they get paid. You are the customer.

Then with the other face, Herbalife claim it is a legitimate company that does not live on lies, then picked a couple of the star pupils it had taught to come tell a tall tale to our elected leaders about how wonderful Herbalife is.

The question is... if I can see the contradiction... why doesn't everybody?

Or perhaps... they do see it, but they figure they can benefit anyway?

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