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BREAKING NEWS: WCM777 / Kingdom 777 outlawed in Lousiana, "suspends" payment in the US

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Previously we have reported that California had outlawed WCM777, quickly followed by Colorado and New Hampshire have either outlawed WCM777, or issued "investor alerts". Actually Massachussetts was first to close down WCM777 in the US.  In South America, Colombia was first to ban WCM777, quickly followed by WCM77 being outlawed in Peru and their WCM777 office raided by police.

In response to all this turmoil, WCM777 simply switched name to "Kingdom 777" and appointed a new "president" by the name of James Tenorio, who seem to have absolutely no experience running anything. His most significant prior employment appears to be that of a voice actor, though he may have worked with some sort of prepaid card service as of 2010, according to his LinkedIn profile.

Today, we found that Louisiana had also issued investor alerts, and in response to these actions, the current head of WCM777 / Kingdom 777, "James Tenorio", has announced that WCM777 / Kingdom 777 will suspend payout in the US.



Of course, Mr. Tenorio talks as if he's doing everybody a favor:
Our Kingdom 777 name and brand is something that I will protect and not allow people to create a negative image of our community. 
It seems your predecessor had indeed left you "holding the bag", Mr. Tenorio. He's the one who created a negative image for you to clean up... If you can.

How much are you getting paid for this s*** job, eh?
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MLM Absurdities: When MLM Sells Not Just Woo, but Fake Woo

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Back in early 2013, Waiora settled a lawsuit for selling watered down version of their own product (as full strength) That brought back some questions... how do MLM promoters, and I mean the ethical ones who really push products (instead of the scam-y ones that just recruits) actually know what they're selling is actually any good?

They rely on the company being forthright and honest of course. They don't know anything. They have to rely on company literature, genetic fallacy (this ingredient is good, so anything containing this ingredient must also be good!), pseudo-science, anecdotal evidence (which doesn't really count), and bandwagon fallacy (X users can't be all wrong!)  However, that's for another article.

What we're here to discuss is instead, what if the company's literature / promotional material is NOT the whole truth? But actually half-lies?

The Waiora case is a great example... That the product doesn't even contain what it supposedly contains (it has some... but at a far lesser concentration than labelled). According to tests done in 2010, Waiora product called NCD that allegedly has some anti-aging properties through "zeolite" (some sort of volcanic mineral that is supposed to help body purge "toxins"), is supposed to contain 2400 mg of zeolite per bottle.  Actual tests shows it has less than 150 mg... that's less than 10% of advertised strength.  The test was done at a second independent lab, which found the concentration to be even LOWER.

The lab results were presented to the company, who dismissed them, claiming the products were tested and *does* contain the advertised amount. However, a few months later, the company seem to have quietly switched suppliers and the product has a different flavor, consistency, and color than the allegedly watered down version.  A bottle of NCD (Natural Cell Defense) has MSRP of $50 per 15-mL bottle.

Class action lawsuit was launched in 2012, and was finally settled out of court in April 2013. Waiora, without admitting fault, is giving 3 bottles (full strength this time) of NCD to any one who ever bought NCD, as well as 12 million (unknown distribution).

This brings up a serious question... Whose fault was it that watered down the product? Usually a factory wouldn't cut corners like that, as it does them no good cutting corners like that. This heavily suggests there is some sort of complicity in Waiora, and their subsequent action, such as deny any wrongdoing, then quiet change factories and settle out of court would suggest (but NOT confirm) some sort of conspiracy between the factory and a senior official at Waiora.

But the real damage is how can any one in MLM trust that the product they got from the factory is real and contains whatever exotic ingredients it was supposed to contain in the right amount?




English: Mannatech logo obtained from the comp...
English: Mannatech logo obtained from the company's website at http://www.mannatech.com; an update to the old logo. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
This brings up a different but related question... Can any one in MLM actually trust the studies given by the company as somehow validating the effectiveness of their product? A prime example is a tainted study for Mannatech published in 1999.

In 1999, a study allegedly studied Mannatech nutritional supplement to be effective was published by a Dr. Darryl See, allegedly partially funded by a Federal health agency, and allegedly done under the auspices of University of California at Irvine Medical School. Mannatech's president, Sam Caster, stated in an investor call, that the See study was partially funded by National Institute of Health, and "the results supports our claim as a true leader in this industry". This was then repeated ad infinitum by 400K affiliates of Mannatech.

While there is such a study, and it was published in Journal of American Nutraceutical Association, it turns out that Darryl See had lied about plenty of things in the study. Among the lies and "neglect to mention" Darryle See had told would include:

  • Darryl See did NOT get any funding from the NIH for the study (a grant was given to UC Irvine by NIH, but it had nothing to do with See's study)
  • Darryl See told JANA editor he was faculty at UCIrvine when he had actually resigned many months prior to publication of the article
  • Darryl See did not disclose that his wife had been a Mannatech distributor since 1997
  • Darryl See did not disclose that he had received $100K+ of speaker fees and research grants from Mannatech since 1998
  • Darryl See claimed that the study was supervised by the infectious disease department chair Jeremiah Tilles. Tilles said he while he frequently meet with See on various topics, he had NEVER heard about the alleged 6-year nutritional supplement study See did. When shown the study, Tilles pointed out that the study contains several violation of UC guidelines and could NOT have been under auspices of the UC Irvine. 

Checking a bit more into Darryl See's background revealed that his father Jackie See, a former associate professor, had previously resigned from UC Irvine due to violations of UC guidelines. His father, now a retired doctor, co-wrote a book on aging with the current "VP of Scientific Affairs" of American Nutraceutical Association (ANA) Gary Huber. ANA's journal was JANA, the journal that published Darryl See's study.

Darryl See made several audiotapes for Mannatech talking about the effectiveness of Mannatech products in treating various conditions, from which I quote, "The supplement is ideal and safe for immune system protection while assisting patients with diseases associated with immune suppression including AIDS, (chronic fatigue syndrome) cancer and hepatitis" When Tilles, the department chair that allegedly supervised the study heard that, he remarked "That's 100% wrong." One cannot simply extrapolate what happens to a few cells in a laboratory (if there is any positive results to report) to "safe for human body". Yet Darryl See apparently pocketed $100K in the sales of those tapes he made for Mannatech.

Mannatech, trying to save face, hired an auditor (reportedly for $30K) to audit See's study. The auditor reported that the study is worthless and cannot be audited because none of the lab results was signed by any technicians, and See never turned in his own lab notebook. One of the technicians that allegedly worked on the study said he recall no such studies being done (or he'd have remembered).

(NOTE: Above news items comes primarily from Bloomberg report)

The situation was so serious that UC Irvine is conducting its own investigation despite the fact that Darryle See had resigned back in 1998. The study referenced use of animals and human blood for testing, but the university has NO RECORD of such experiments. Later Darryl See claimed he got those from patients who gave consent.

Despite the inconsistencies and many of the outright ethical violations and omissions of critical facts, Mannatech apparently still stands by research... Until September 1999, when they turned 180 and sued Darryl See for fraud. There was no mention of what happened to him so I guess they settled out of court.

Darryl See joined Jeuness, another nutritional supplement MLM company, who published a bunch of excuses for him. After a few years of malpractice, Darryle See was forced to give up his medical license in 2007.

All in all, Mannatech's reputation had been severely harmed by this episode, and they are a bit more careful in checking out studies that favor their product, if any. However, that doesn't seem to help them when their chosen field, "glyconutrients", was denounced by glycobiologists as "increases flatulence" because the human body can't digest them. But that's another topic for another time.

But the point is still simple... Can you really trust the "testimonials", even scientific ones, apparently made by someone with impeccable credentials, released by the company? 

What if you cannot trust the testimonials and "proof" provided by the company? What if they turned out to be bogus? Will you ask the necessary questions or are you going to just choke it down and ignore the little voice in the back of your head, and be a robot?

What if you can't trust the product? How do you know what the company said was in the product is really in it? Can you afford to trust the company? Or just rely on blind faith? 

This is business, not religion or love. Don't be blind to the realities.

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BREAKING NEWS: New Brunswick, Canada joined the parade of authorities outlawing WCM777

MLM Absurdities: To a Recruiter, There Are No Customers (Just Potential Downlines)

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Previously, MLM Skeptic has posed the question... Why had network marketing lost its will to retail?  It was more of a hypothetical question as network marketing should be all about retail, but it seems that many network marketing firms had morphed into "product-based pyramid scheme" (PBPS) that seem to be making a lot of sales, but has no proof that it was actually retailing (most if not all) products to the end consumers. Instead, they are selling products to their distributors... and from there, they don't care any more. They'd love to have the distributors to consume all of the products, and in fact, DSA had fought so, by getting several states to adopt anti-pyramid laws that specifically legalized self-consumption, and DSA said about internal consumption (i.e. self-consumption)
...compensation received by salespeople for products they themselves buy and use, and those bought and used by other salespeople within their organization, is a legitimate, legal and ethical practice and not evidence of illegal pyramid activity. 
http://www.dsa.org/ethics/internalconsumptionwhitepaper.pdf
DSA, by adopting the position, has undermined its own position that network marketing is about retail, by allowing distributors to take "shortcuts" to sales goals by buying products themselves. Without audits and limits, self-consumption leads to product-based pyramid schemes.

Somewhere along the way between 1979 (FTC vs. Amway) and now, MLM had lost its soul along the way, by forgetting about retailing, but instead, embraced "self-consumption" and fudging numbers, and probably a bit of willful ignorance, i.e. we don't know about how much we retail because if we know, we may find ourselves illegal.

Part of the cause is the rise of the recruiter-MLMer, previously identified in "6 types of MLMer", and they helped PBPS along by playing loose with the rules.

But first, let us discuss what is the "ideal" MLM, and how far had the modern MLM wandered from that ideal.



The "Ideal" MLM

In an ideal MLM, the company has virtually no middle or low management. Instead, it has a sales force. Start small, a few dozen people, who go out and push products in party plans, or face to face. Soon, a few natural leaders were spotted, and those are promoted to help their fellow sales team members to achieve, to lead, to train, and to manage the team. They receive a performance based incentive: the better his/her team does in selling the product, the better his/her bonuses are. And all sales force benefit because there is plenty of retail. It is the PRIMARY concern of the "seller" MLMer. S/he will teach sales techniques, closing techniques, and so on and so forth.

The "ideal" MLM emphasize sales, so recruiting a customer is the LAST thing they want to do... Unless this customer is so helpful, s/he is de facto member of the sales force. S/he had made multiple referrals. And most people, let's face it, are NOT good sales people. People you sell to are not necessarily people you want to work with. You'd be lucky if you manage to find ONE true salesperson every dozen people you meet and pitch the product to. Part of the existing sales force's job is to spot the valuable recruits out there, and add them to the sales force, and they want people who can really sell, instead of filling up the ranks with any warm body with a wallet.

The modern "recruiter" MLM is nothing like this.

The modern "recruiter" MLM

In a modern "recruiter" MLM, company has tons of management of every level (we'll explain why in a minute). Instead of a sales force, it has recruiter / customer hybrids, and recruiters out recruiting even more recruiter / customer hybrids.

Instead of customers who like the products and want to buy them, modern MLM is full of "customers" who had been teased with dreams of riches, and then seized with "all you need to do is buy your stuff, then find more people like you, and you can be rich like me", and turned into recruiter / customer hybrids who, if they recruit enough, turn into pure recruiters. They don't care if you can sell stuff. They just care if you can BUY their stuff. So you don't even know why you joined... Did you join to make money, or did you joined just because you like the product? Why can't you just BUY the product (without joining?)

The emphasis is on the opportunity, not the product offered. As a result, all sort of bad claims were passed along, including misleading income claims, misleading information about the company or its founders, misleading health benefit claims, and so on and so forth. So much so, company had to hire people for "compliance reviews" (i.e. is what they are saying going to get the company in trouble?)

The net result is while a lot of products are moved, there is little actual retailing going on, and thus, the modern recruiter-based MLM is essentially a product-based pyramid scheme.

Prospects, not customers

In a traditional MLM, the MLMer sees everybody as potential customers, and that is often quite annoying ("All you have to do is change your regular store detergent to my _____ detergent!")  Recruiter MLMers are even worse, because they consider everybody they meet to be potential RECRUITS (i.e. downlines).  And thus, they have an extra coercion tool: greed. And that's where the misleading claim of potential income comes in.

Regarding claim of potential income, most people online are doing it wrong, and potentially illegal. Some MLMers are fond of showing off a check (which is obviously the largest check they got to date) or some sort of a screen-cap proving that they made X sales amount or was paid $X in commission. However, such claims are ILLEGAL according to FTC, unless you also explain that your payment is not typical and what the typical commission check is. Same with live meetings, rallies, and seminars. EVEN TWITTER MESSAGES are subject to this rule!

Then you run into potentially illegal claims of product efficacy and application, with vague hints of "it's good for you" from the company obviously not enough, so the distributors started making up stuff about how good their stuff is, and to denigrate their competitors as *crap*. The youngest MLMers are often guilty of this (must be the hormones?)


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Why Is DSA Trying to Destroy Network Marketing Through Denial? (Redemption is still possible!)

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Previously, MLM Skeptic has asked a hypothetical question: why does DSA ignore the threat of 'product-based pyramid scheme' to network marketing?   By pushing 3 myths that are not reality, DSA has basically denied there is a problem with network marketing.

While browsing through some documents related to Omnitrition case and self-consumption (aka internal consumption) I found a document that proved DSA's denial is much deeper, and that may lead to total destruction of network marketing as we know it. It's quite alarming... but if they persist in this denial, it is quite possible.

The denial is the threat of Omnitrition case to the current state of network marketing, which is nothing like the way network marketing was back in 1979, when Amway settled with FTC and created the "network marketing industry".

Seal of the United States Court of Appeals for...
Seal of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
DSA's official position is that everybody should just FORGET that Omnitrition lost the case in the Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit. It doesn't mean anything, they said.
Omnitrition case was not a final adjudication of the case but instead remanded the case to the trial court for final resolution. The decision was interlocutory in nature, and its dictum cannot be cited as law or even as a statement of generally accepted
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and self-consumption is perfectly legal.
...compensation received by salespeople for products they themselves buy and use, and those bought and used by other salespeople within their organization, is a legitimate, legal and ethical practice and not evidence of illegal pyramid activity. 
Both interpretations are problematic at best, totally illogical at worst. Let's see why.



Dicta Decisions *are* Important!


DSA claims Omnitrition decision can be ignored because it is dicta, which is not a formal decision, but more of an "incidental" remark. This is a completely erroneous interpretation of the significance of dicta. But first, let us explain what really is dicta.
Obiter dictum (more usually used in the plural, obiter dicta), is Latin for “other things that are said”, that is, a statement in a judgment that is "said in passing". -- wikipedia
For example, when a court rules that it lacks jurisdiction to hear a case or dismisses the case on a technicality, but also offers opinions on the merits of the case, such opinions may constitute obiter dicta. Another way for obiter dicta is when a judge makes a side comment in an opinion to provide context for other parts of the opinion, or makes a thorough exploration of a relevant area of law.

The case about Omnitrition is explained in a separate blog post and will not be repeated. However, the case goes like this, in a very very short summary

  • 1992 Webster, et al, sued Omnitrition in District court. Omnitrition asked for summary judgement
  • 1994 Omnitrition won summary judgement in District court, Webster appealed
  • 1996 Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals hear the appeal about summary judgement, found there are problems with summary judgement, remanded the case back to district court after vacating most of the prior decision

Please note Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals did NOT rule whether Omnitrition was a pyramid scheme or not. Instead, it had analyzed the decision process district court used to grant Omnitrition a summary judgement (i.e. "not guilty of whatever Webster said"), found that the district court did not analyze a lot of things it should have (went over each item in detail and why ignoring them was a bad idea) and remanded it back to district court.

So while DSA is technically correct in that the Ninth Circuit did NOT adjudicate the case, the case was settled before district court could have ruled on the case as Ninth Circuit instructed. Based on the behavior of Omnitrition, it apparently assumed that it would have likely lost the case had the case gone to trial, thus settling the case out of court in its best interest.

Furthermore, DSA is wrong in claiming that dicta decisions are of no legal consequence. Dictum / dicta was OFTEN cited as legal standards, despite what DSA claimed. Here are a couple examples:
  • "ANY children born in the US, even if their parents had entered or stayed in the US illegally, are US citizens" is a dicta from the case INS vs. Rios-Pineda
  • "Juristic person can also be protected by Fourteenth Amendment" is a dicta dating back to 1886 in Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad
  • "Due process can be used to strike down laws that violate fundamental rights" is also a dicta, from United States vs. Carolene Products (1936) 
Dicta formed some of most fundamental American legal concepts, so for DSA to ignore dicta given in Omnitrition is a very dangerous interpretation.

Furthermore, FTC has already referenced Omnitrition case in its case against Burnlounge (read summary by Kevin "The MLM Attorney" Thompson), and should have also done so in its shutdown of Fortune High Tech Marketing (FHTM) in January 2013.

Thus, it is quite "unreasonable" for DSA to ignore Omnitrition and deny its role in laws governing the network marketing industry. 

Indeed, even MLM lawyers have noted that FTC based its cases on the Omnitrition decision. Here's "Grimes and Reese" LLC have to say about this on their blog:
Since 1996 the FTC has claimed that MLM compensation must be derived from sales to retail customers rather than sales to the company’s own distributors. That position stems from a case decided by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals called Webster vs. Omnitrition. (Note that the FTC argues this position before the courts, but when talking to industry stake-holders, it does not assert such a firm position). 
Which leads us to the second "unreasonable" position that DSA has on "internal consumption" (i.e. sales to company's own distributors).

Too Much Internal Consumption = Pyramid Scheme!

Note that Grimes and Reese (that's two famous MLM attorneys) wrote that FTC takes the Omnitrition decision very seriously, and FTC does NOT like to see compensation based on sales to company's own distributors.

Remember the Koscot test says that the commission a distributor earns must be based on SALES, not on recruiting other people (who also buy into the scheme).

Yet that's what DSA was doing: claiming that selling products to its own distributors, i.e. "internal consumption", and calling it "retail sales" and thus not pyramid scheme, when the distributors basically "paid into the scheme" via those qualifying purchases (to themselves), and is compensated by recruiting other people who did the same.

If you don't quite see this, let's try this theoretical scenario:

I have a "business" here. To join, you give me $2000, and I give you this X amount of Item Y.

How do you make money? Find more people to do the same thing you did... Pay $2000 for X amount of item Y.  For every Z people you find, you're rewarded with $W dollars.

Does this sound like a pyramid scheme to you? Or is that a legal MLM? FTC would say this is a pyramid scheme, because no item Y actually reached ultimate consumer.

DSA, however, claim that distributors, i.e. "you", who handed over $2000, and all you recruited (who also paid $2000) are the ultimate consumers because you count as "sales" even though you haven't sold anything. Apparently you can consume all X amount of Item Y, or give them away, or auction them off on eBay, or dump them in the trash... The company doesn't care. Neither does DSA. DSA claims this is NOT a pyramid scheme, because internal consumption (of any amount) is legal. That makes absolutely no sense.


Solution to DSA's Denial 

DSA's denial of Omnitrition is both ominous and idiotic. By adopting denial, it will doom the network marketing industry by refusing to see the danger and believe in its own interpretation of events. This is called self-delusion.

DSA needs to make all of its members emphasize retailing the products, instead of trying to push the 'self-consumption' concept. Once the self-consumers are "fixed", the rest of the problems should fix themselves.

There are two solutions to the self-consumer problem.

a) limit the amount that can be counted as "self-consumption" to only "reasonable" amount of the products. As most items have recommended daily dose (2 tablets?), simply multiply that by re-order period (30 days?), and divided by package size (60 tablets per bottle?)

Reason: DSA's position that ANY amount of self-consumption is okay is... well, nonsense! If the distributor's buying for him or herself, then s/he needs only one "portion". AND s/he still needs to sell to 9 other customers to fulfill the ten customer rule as per Amway Safeguard rules.

FTC's objection to self-consumption stems from the Omnitrition case where Webster testified that one can self-consume enough to fulfill the 70% reorder rule (i.e. no retail at all). By fighting the limit on self-consumption, DSA has basically negated its own namesake: direct selling. Selling to oneself is not direct selling.

b) make any self-consumption non-commissionable (i.e. they cannot be counted for personal volume for commission calculations).

Making self-consumption non-commisionable will fundamentally change the dynamic of network marketing... but only the BAD KIND. It will only hurt companies that sells the products to distributors but not for retail, as the distributor only bought the stuff so his PV is enough to qualify for commission. This would also force the distributors to "prove" they are indeed retailing the products as required by Amway Safeguard rules (as the default would be it's consumed by the distributor... unless otherwise proven).

This would require random audits and such, but with computer technology this should be easily achievable by verifiable credit cards and shipping addresses and such and smartphone apps to register customers, and so on. Most can be automated.


Conclusion

DSA's denial about the problem is faces is self-delusional and alarming, even for the MLM skeptic, since the future of MLM is on the line.

Yet the solution is so simple... And so within the law, the only real reason to go against is "we haven't done it that way".

Things change, people. It's called PROGRESS.

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BREAKING NEWS: Dawn Wright-Olivares and Dan Olivares to appear in Charlotte NC Federal Court Wednesday Feb 5th 2014

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WXII-TV
WXII-TV (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
According to WXII TV Channel 12 report, Dawn Wright-Olivares, former CMO of Zeek Rewards Ponzi, and her stepson Dan Olivares, former CTO of Zeek Rewards will be appearing at the Charlotte North Carolina Federal Court to plead guilty to criminal conspiracy to commit fraud, coming Wednesday, Feb 5th, 2014.

Zeek Rewards is the largest Ponzi scheme in the US in terms of victims involved, with up to 1 million victims all over the world, and current figures puts it at $850 million, primarily middle-class victims.

Both Dawn and Dan had already plead guilty to the civil charges by SEC and agreed to cough up almost 11 million dollars, the amount they got from Zeek during its run, as a part of the plea deal.

US Attorney's office has no comment on the case, citing ongoing investigation.



It is not know if other members in the Zeek Rewards scheme (including head Paul Burks, Darryl Douglas, and some later comers who only joined in the final months, hoping to clean up the mess that can't be cleaned up) will be charged as well.

The United States Secret Service star logo.
The United States Secret Service star logo.
(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
In related news... Zeek Rewards Receiver ken Bell reported that several more "net winners" chose to settle by lesser amounts. It is also continuing to hammer various payment processors (Payza, NxPay, and STPay) and their affiliate entities with assistance of US Secret Service (who tracks financial fraud) for funds that had not been turned over or were withdrawn fraudulently (i.e. transferred out when it should not have been).

Almost 57% percent of funds held by net winners had been recovered. First disbursement of funds may start in a few months. Lawsuits against remaining net winners will start ASAP.

A different article revealed that both Paul Burks and Dawn Wright-Olivares have ties to MLM... Burks allegedly was in Amway, and Dawn was in Mary Kay and several other MLMs.


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MLM Absurdities: Yes, Your Family Doctor Could Be Selling MLM stuff too

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I was reading updates on Tracy Coenan's Sequence Inc. files when I came across a company called Metagenics, which seem to be nutritional supplements sold through doctor's offices (including doctor of chiropractics, i.e. chiropractors).

As most doctors are not nutritionists, one wonders if they are really qualified to do so... or is this just some sort of network marketing that had reached doctor's offices?

You'd think doctors, with proper health education (and I do mean M.D.s, not D.C's  doctor of chiropractics), would know enough to not do something questionable, but there's evidence of even HOSPITALS trying out devices based on pseudo-science.

But it's always possible they know something that we don't. So what can be found by Google?

A quick check revealed that they've been warned by the FDA to stop falsely advertising their product as "good for" (condition), and all there nutritonal supplements, normally classified as "food", had made sufficient claims to be considered DRUGS instead, and that's ILLEGAL!  (Drugs have MUCH more stringent testing criteria).

Here's the first two paragraphs:
WARNING LETTER
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English: Logo of the FDA . (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Dear Dr. Troup:

This is to advise you that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reviewed your website at the internet address www.metagenics.com in August 2013, and has determined that you take orders there for the products UltraClear®, UltraClear® Plus, UltraClear® Plus pH, UltraClear RENEW™, GI Sustain, UltraMeal® Plus, UltraMeal® Plus 360, UltraInflamX®, UltraInflamX® Plus 360, UltraGlycemX®, GlycemX™ 360, Ultracare for Kids®, BariatrX Essentials Bariatric Meal, and ArginCor. These products are labeled as “medical foods,” and the labeling claims on your website represent these products as medical foods for the dietary management of a variety of medical conditions.

Based on our review, we have determined that these products are misbranded under section 403(a)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) [21 U.S.C. § 343(a)(1)], because the labeling is false and misleading in that the products are labeled and marketed as medical foods but do not meet the statutory definition of a medical food in the Orphan Drug Act [21 U.S.C. § 360ee(b)(3)] or the criteria set forth in 21 CFR 101.9(j)(8). Furthermore, because these products are labeled and marketed as medical foods, but do not meet the statutory definition of a medical food, FDA has determined that these products are promoted for conditions that cause them to be drugs under section 201(g)(1)(B) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)(1)(B)]. You can find the Act and its implementing regulations on FDA’s website at http://www.fda.gov.
Ouch, this is bad, having your product slapped by no less than the FDA for making irresponsible claims.  But wait, it gets worse:




Quoting from the end of the letter...
Your products are not generally recognized as safe and effective for the above referenced uses and, therefore, the products are “new drugs” under section 201(p) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)]. New drugs may not be legally introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without prior approval from FDA, as described in section 505(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]; see also section 301(d) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 331(d)]. FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data submitted by a drug sponsor to demonstrate that the drug is safe and effective.

This letter is not an all-inclusive list of violations in your products and their labeling.  It is your responsibility to ensure that products marketed by your firm comply with the Act and its implementing regulations. We advise you to review your websites, product labels, and other labeling and promotional materials for all of your products to ensure that the claims you make for your products do not cause them to violate the Act.

You should take prompt action to correct the violations described above and prevent their future recurrence. Failure to implement lasting corrective action of these violations may result in regulatory action being initiated by FDA without further notice. The Act authorizes the seizure of illegal products and injunctions against manufacturers and distributors of those products [21 U.S.C. §§ 332 and 334].
While I have not seen the before and after of the Metagenics website, (I guess I can do that with the Wayback Machine...) there seems to be no subsequent letters, so I presumed that they took care of the problems...  I better check on that.

Further research shows that Metagenics is actually owned by Alticor.

Alticor is the parent corporation of Amway.

MLM type Stuff sold in doctor's offices, warned by FDA as falsely labelled.

Ouch.

To be fair to Metagenix, FDA is pretty darn strict on advertising claims. They slapped Lancome USA in 2012 for making advertising claims about "rearrange collagen" and "stimulate youth proteins" with their anti-aging skin treatment. They've also issued warning letters, lots more in recent years, for making overzealous claims that made cosmetics and nutritional supplements sound as if they can 'treat' medical conditions.

But it's STILL not good to be slapped by ANY Federal agency.

And even less good that can cause your affiliates' motivation and qualification to be questioned.

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What to Do If You're Being Recruited: Ask for Schedule C

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Dave Ritchie over at RealScam.com had an excellent suggestion for a very quick "due diligence" test: ask for their "IRS Schedule C", which is where their sole proprietor income will be reported, and most MLM income will be reported as schedule C. (Corp or partnership income are reported slightly differently, but if they are serious they should have equivalent documentation)
Once it becomes apparent your encounter with anyone is or will be taking place in the context of their role as an MLM business opportunity seller, control of your part in the encounter is completely in your hands. Simply ask the seller to defer their pitch (interrupt if you must) and inform them that it’s your practice to require reliable and objective evidence of a business opportunity’s viability before you invest your time listening to an entire presentation. 
The evidence you will request is a true copy of your seller’s most recently filed IRS Schedule C for their MLM business. Line 31 shows their “Net profit or (loss)”. If this figure is positive, the proposition may merit further investigation, although you’re not necessarily safe. If on the other hand, line 31 shows a net loss, you’d be wise to assume that you too would sustain net losses in the same business. 
This test is so simple, you can remember it easily. The penalty of filing fake tax return should make most people hesitant to pass you a fake document.

Go read the full suggestion as it goes into a bit more detail on how to follow up when your recruiter start to hem and haw, or have his/her jaw drop as s/he tries to find the relevant counter in his/her sales script.

http://www.realscam.com/blogs/dave-ritchie/375-simple-strategy-distinguish-between-mlm-business-opportunities-bankruptcy-opportunities.html
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MLM Commentary: Think VERY HARD If You Want To Pivot to MLM

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English: Seal of the United States Census Bure...
United States Census Bureau.
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Generally speaking, network marketing (or multi-level marketing) is a niche that grows, but the rate is hardly noticeable against inflation, despite having been around for decades. Most products are launched through traditional retail channels, and only a few very niche products are launched with network marketing.

Consider this: According to US Department of Commerce, Census Bureau, 2011 total retail is

4,136,352  million dollars (not counting auto sales or auto parts)

According to Direct Selling Associasion (DSA), estimated direct sales to retail 2011 is...

29,870  million (i.e. 29.87 billion)

That's 0.72% of all US retail (again, not counting auto sales or auto parts)
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DSA (US) Logo
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Not much of a niche, is it?

How much did it grow? Let's take a look at 2010's data (2012 data will be published in March or April 2014, according to Census Bureau).

3,841,454  million dollars

That's 7.6% growth from 2010 to 2011.

How did direct sales do in the same period?

28,560 million

That's 0.74% of all US retail, only a 4.6% growth from 2010 to 2011.

If a company can't make it in regular retail, how do they expect to make it in network marketing?

Thus, if a company that was originally launched as retail business want to switch to direct sales... That company should consider ALL the angles, lest it end up with a disastrous pivot.



A "pivot" is when a business tries to refocus its business into a different field. It can be done, but it is extremely risky, even when all the moves are right.

IBM did a successful pivot to get away from the personal computer business (sold it all the Lenovo) and concentrated on business services and solutions, sort of going back to its roots. 

Pixar did a successful pivot when it dropped its hardware and software business and concentrated on animation, which was merely a sidejob that keep the bills paid. 


There are plenty of companies that failed to pivot. Blockbuster Video would be one... It tried doing the "DVD by mail" like Netflix... but can't keep up when Netflix dumped the DVDs for streaming. 


Not only you have to choose to pivot, but how you pivot is a major concern. For companies that is considering pivot to network marketing, you may have rocky road ahead, due to incompatible culture, possibly shady marketing moves, and more. 

One company that tried this marketing pivot is BidRX.

BidRX was a high flier. It offered a way to shop for prescription drugs via their proprietary platform. It was really hot... in 2011. It even got on the Today show and Lifehacker. Pay as low as $2.50 a month for continued access to money saving measures. And after that splash, it hadn't been heard from since. 

Which is sort of understandable. Expanding drug coverage, prescription now available at Target and CostCo, existing pharmacies like Walgreens introduce "clubs" for additional savings... Growth of BidRX probably slowed, which in turn slowed their recruitment effort of additional pharmacies. 

Then suddenly in 2014 a company called BidForMyMeds came along, and started representing itself as a part of BidRX. Their "about" page shows CEO and VP of BidRX, except BidForMyMeds have a monthly fee of $7, and if you pay $17 a month instead, you can recruit other people (who pay $7 or $17) and get PAID for your recruitment. 

This is so much like Burnlounge (a pyramid scheme closed by FTC). Add to that the shady nature of unclear link between BidRX and BidForMyMeds, that lead Oz over at BehindMLM to question if the use of BidRX was even authorized. That resulted in an attorney sending Oz a legal threat to remove the review, which was politely refused

Later updates revealed that BidForMyMeds is merely a marketing company (one of several) that reached some sort of deal with BidRX, and the lack of separation between the two had lead to some BidForMyMeds members calling BidRX and yelling at the reps on the phone for lack of support, thinking they're talking to BidForMyMeds.

It's a PR disaster in the making, for both BidRX and BidForMyMeds. What went wrong?

First, BidRX apparently did not check how did BidForMyMeds represented itself and its relation to BidRX. This should have been a part of compliance review before the marketing agreement was signed, and review should have been done by professionals.

Second, BidForMyMeds apparently did not have sufficient training in place to explain the difference and what can be said (and cannot be said). This is a part of "affiliate compliance" and someone really did drop the ball. If they had training in place a lot fo this could have been averted. Though BidRX gets part of the blame for not checking the marketing campaign.

Third, the compensation plan essentially is a headhunting bounty, and since one has to PAY to join, that makes it a potentially illegal pyramid scheme / endless chain referral scheme. A MLM consultant or MLM lawyer would have caught this early on.

Fourth, the chain referral scheme attracted the type of referral game recruiters who recruit through half-truths, lies, misrepresentations, and so on that only made the situation worse.

Fifth, botched attempt to 'suppress' the 'negative' review illustrated the power of the Streisand Effect.

I like the idea of BidRX, but I'm afraid this botched marketing pivot may damage its hard-earned goodwill.

So be VERY careful if you are consider a company with MLM plan that was added recently. This pivot is often a sign of desperation.

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Guest Post: Vemma and Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich", Part 3 of 6

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Previously we had SlayerofScams, a fellow scambuster on IGN, posting his essay on how people misconstrue Napoleon Hill's advice to coerce the weak-minded sheeple. [ Part 1 of 6 ] [ Part 2 of 6 ]

Here's part 3.  Enjoy

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SlayerofScams, January 7, 2014

This seems like a good time for Round Three of Napoleon Hill's Smackdown of Vemma/Verve From Beyond the Grave.

Here is Hill’s twenty-seventh cause for failure at life:

27. INTENTIONAL DISHONESTY. There is no substitute for honesty. One may be temporarily dishonest by force of circumstances over which one has no control, without permanent damage. But, there is NO HOPE for the person who is dishonest by choice. Sooner or later, his deeds will catch up with him, and he will pay by loss of reputation, and perhaps even loss of liberty.

First, a special message to Bob Proctor: You see that, Bob Proctor? Your biggest hero and favorite role model condemns you for your intentional dishonesty in telling countless (tens of thousands? millions?) of people that Vemma/Verve is a great company and legitimate business opportunity. By the same token, Hill condemns you for your intentional dishonesty in bastardizing his words, "a winner never quits," in order to brainwash the Vemma/Verve victims to think that eventually they will get rich if only they keep allowing Vemma/Verve to rob them blind month after month and year after year.

You, Bob Proctor, have said in your own seminars, and in The Secret movie, things like, "whatever you put out to the universe is going to come back to you, whether good or bad." If you really believe that, then you know that your shilling for the illegal pyramid scheme/scam Vemma/Verve is destined to cause the universe to repay you with negative consequences for your evil behavior. Your reputation is already ruined, just as Hill predicted it would be. Was some more money - in the form of ill-gotten gains that BK Boreyko pays to you - really worth forever throwing away your [former] good name and legacy for, Bob?



Now a message to the other cult masters and the average Vemma shills: Here is what Hill is telling you. Stop your dishonest scamming ways immediately, before bad karma comes and bites you hard, including in such forms as: one, no one will respect you because you are a lowdown dirty scammer; and; two, your scamming may even cause you to go to prison. If you don't believe that you can go to prison for participating in an illegal scam, just ask Bernie Madoff. Madoff was recently sentenced to 150 years in prison for running an illegal ponzi scheme/scam. That is not much different than what you are doing by stealing the money from everyone who you recruit as your downline victims into the illegal Vemma/Verve pyramid scheme/scam.

Remember, Hill says that INTENTIONAL DISHONESTY causes failure at life. If you have read any posts in this thread, you now know that you are being dishonest every time you tell any new potential victim that "Vemma is a legitimate, once-in-a-lifetime, revolutionary new business opportunity, and one that will make you rich forever, if only you join and work very hard for a few years."Therefore, if you are a shill for Verve, you are destined to fail at life. Maybe that is why you are losing money every month, O average Vemma victim? Does working a "job" that causes you to lose money every month seem anything like failing at life? Think about it.

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Editor's note. Keep in mind that self-delusion, i.e. dishonest to YOURSELF, happens quite a bit in pseudo-MLM and MLM as well.

And "fake it till you make it" is also being dishonest.

Coming soon... part 4!
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Scam Absurdities: When You Say You're Not a Scam, Don't STEAL the Explanation! (Vemma thieves beware!)

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It's surprising how many people PRETEND to have ethics, but in reality, shows a complete lack of ethics, and how many of them ended up in MLM. Today, the sterling example of such hypocrisy is... Quinn, who works for Vemma selling Verve (energy drink) even though he calls himself an 'entrepreneur', and claims to work for himself.

In an article on his website, Quinn goes on to "prove" that network marketing / MLM has a reputation tarnished by some people who are not suited for it, failed, and create a 'bad rap' for the system. As I have no desire to give him "linkjuice" I am NOT linking it. However, here's a screenshot of his website.

Quinn's "explanation" why Vemma's not a scam,
but did he write it? 
The problem is the ENTIRE article did not mention Vemma even once. Furthermore, the style of prose is very different from the rest of his website. Yet there is no "by", and thus implying Quinn wrote this.

Highlighting a couple words and search via Google revealed that this is actually PLAGIARIZED from about.com. Not a single word had been changed, but title was changed, and author's name was removed.

Can you say... THIEF?



Just to show you a screenshot of the original, next to the copy:

The original from about.com
The plagiarized version, retitled but otherwise unchanged

Yep, word for word copy and paste job.

Not only is Quinn guilty of copyright violation (copying / reposting someone else's article without permission), he's guilty of plagiarism (passing off the article as his own).

Wikimedia explanation, Creative Commons licensed
Isn't it ironic that a Vemmbot had to PLAGIARIZE an article to explain why Vemma's not a scam? I haven't even gotten to critique the article itself yet, or how applicable it is toVemma (i.e. not very).

If this is the typical 'entrepreneur' in Vemma, it is doomed. 


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Scam and MLM Absurdities: Why do Scams and MLMs do "Same Wine, New Bottle"?

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Looking at history of network marketing, and scams and an interesting pattern emerged.

Most people who start network marketing companies were former grunts in network marketing... And sometimes, these alleged network marketing companies turned out to be outright scams.

First, let's get the more legitimate (compared to the scams) folks listed...
  • Cambridge Diet top distributor Sandra Tillotson went on to co-start NuSkin
  • Natural Health Trend's high-ranker Terry LaCore went on to start bHIP (and later, Rippln)
  • Herbalife member Roger Daley went on to start Omnitrition International
Given that NuSkin is in trouble in China, Mr. LaCore had a run-in with the SEC, and Roger Daley's Omnitrition was slapped down by 9th Circuit Court of Appeals... Well, let's just say they are NOT egregious scams (except maybe NuSkin in China)

Then there are the outright scams... Where participants of MLM or scams went on to start and/or continue to participate in scams.


Here are a few well-known scammers who started from network marketing or scams:
There are probably tons of other examples that implies once you got into network marketing or scam, you can't do anything else.

And they basically reinvent the business they were in. And often, it's not even a revamp, but just a rename.

Same wine, new bottle.

It's sad when a scam just change names, and hopes to keep operating.


Scam Absurdities: Ian Driscoll of BannersBroker ponzi now pushing FlexKom. Leopard Still Can't Change His Spots.

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Sometimes, the surest sign of whether a 'scheme' is a scam or not is the sort of people it seem to attract. If the scheme is flooded by recruiters who previously were involved in various matrix schemes (illlegal!), pyramid schemes (illegal, doh!), Ponzi schemes (need I say it?) and so on, you should run away from it as far as you can, even if the business sounds perfectly legitimate to you. Why? Because those "frequent players" know something you don't: the scheme they joined really rewards recruiting, no matter what it APPEARS to be actually doing. And they are experts in recruiting... something that is very useful... in a pyramid scheme.

Now let's cite the example... Ian Driscoll, formerly of BannersBroker, now pushing FlexKom.

This is Ian Driscoll, from his FlexKom pimping website: (yes, that's actual size)


BannersBroker is a global ponzi/pyramid scheme that is basically an "auto-surf" scheme where you put money in, supposedly watch other people's banners, and get paid a profit (from where?). Here is a link to Web of Trust's reviews (by users) on the scheme:

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/bannersbroker.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=popup-donuts

And here's RealScam's file on BannersBroker

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-897/

So what's Mr. Ian Driscoll, the UK face of BannersBroker up to? Apparently he's latched onto a different train: FlexKom.



FlexKom claims to be a combination shopping card / virtual currency / merchant network scheme out of Turkey. Where the "profit" is generated from is unclear, as most shopping at participating merchants generate rather minimal fees (up to 3%?). However, they apparently reward people who brought in a LOT of people who bought the FlexCards and loaded with X amount of FlexDollars (1 FD=1 Euro, they claimed). Up to 30% (huh?).  For a full review, see BehindMLM's review of FlexKom

There are plenty of reports over Europe about possible FlexKom scam. And the company had taken a pretty hard line of suing newspapers who reported on such, or so Ian Discoll claimed. But what's interesting was the quote from The Mirror (UK)
His [Ian Driscoll's] previous venture was an online advertising “business opportunity” called Banners Brokers that was branded an international pyramid scheme and, Driscoll admits, “turned into a nightmare”. 
Direct selling, network marketing, pyramids, call it what you will, he confesses: “Often I am ashamed to be in the same industry as some bandits.” 
But he’s certain he’s struck gold with FlexKom: “This is the future, mark my words.”
Yet in 2013 he was hot about BannersBroker, and there are PLENTY of posts, slides, and such where he's going all out for BannersBroker, new type of Internet business, blah blah blah.

Frankly, it's exactly the same as Ad Surf Daily: advertise on some no-name websites that look like they've been built from Wordpress themes in 4 hours. And somehow this is supposed to generate huge profit... AFTER you put in thousands of your own money (minimum of $1000).

And now he's scrubbed his own Tweets of BannersBroker, and renamed his Twitter account to FlexKom Ian Driscoll. So he's apparently going "all in".

The same way he's going "all in" on BannersBroker.

And the way Mr. Driscoll is pushing FlexKom is more reminiscent of "Comical Ali" (aka Baghdad Bob) in claiming that FlexKom will soon sell phones that has its own ecosystem instead of Google's. (IMHO, what'll really happen is FlexKom will order a bunch of junk Android clones from China, with their app preloaded.)

There's also reports that the fancy $500 "POS 3" terminal FlexKom is selling as a part of their merchant package is really a Chinese tablet (worth about... $50?) with an app on it that logs into FlexKom merchant network.

Can a leopard change his spots? Can a zebra change his stripes?

We're marking your words, Ian Driscoll. Too bad there's no "3 strikes" law in commerce. But we know what you did. And Google does not forget.


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Scam Absurdities: What Sann Rodrigues of TelexFree do NOT want you to know about his past

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It is amazing how little "due diligence" people use when it comes to "making money". Often, all you have to do is Google the name, and scroll through a couple pages of cheerleading results, to get to the truth. Today, we shall do a little digging into a gentleman by the name of "Sann Rodrigues"... except that's not really his name, but more of an alias.

Sann Rodrigues current has the title "First Millionaire TelexFree US", and appeared at various TelexFree "seminars" roughly like this:

Sann Rodrigues speaking about TelexFree? or FoneClub?
via http://valdirpiauhytk.blogspot.com/2013/03/um-acriano-no-comando-da-telexfree.html
Not His Full Legal Name

First things first... Sann Rodrigues is not his "full legal name". His full legal name is Sanderley Rodrigues De Vasconcelos. Actually, there's probably a few surnames missing, as Brazilians tend to use both surnames of both parents, so I'll refer you to wikipedia page on Portuguese names (Brazilians use it too)  However, the "convention" is to use the last surname on the list (usually paternal), so his name *should* have been Sanderley Vasconcelos. For him to call himself Sann Rodrigues would be like Samuel L. Jackson to name himself Sam Leroy. (L stands for Leroy, really)  

While one is allowed to use a different surname in the family, like Ayrton Senna is really Ayrton Senna da Silva, Senna chose to be known as Senna because da Silva is a very popular surname. However, "Sann Rodrigues" had done the exact opposite, because "Rodrigues" is a VERY VERY common South American surname, found in both the Spanish speaking parts *and* the Portuguese-speaking parts. 

One wonders if Mr. "Rodrigues" has something to hide.

Sann Rodrigues was head of FoneClub Scam in both US and Brazil

Second, what he had to hide becomes crystal clear when one Googles his name directly and skip past all those videos and such... and found a government website link. 

It appears that in 2006, Mr. "Sann Rodrigues", who was also known as Sanderley Vasconcelos, was shut down by the SEC, the same folks who closed the Zeek Rewards ponzi scheme, for operating a pyramid scheme called "Universo FoneClub" specifically targeting Brazilians, and Brazilian- Americans. Especially illegal immigrants who was afraid if they complain to the authorities they will be deported. It is an especially vicious affinity scam.




 Quoting from the SEC press release:
The Commission's papers charge Sanderley R. De Vasconcelos and Victor Sales with promoting a pyramid scheme known as "FoneClub" that targets Brazilians and Brazilian-Americans living in the area of Framingham, Massachusetts. The Commission alleged in its complaint that the defendants falsely promised members of the Brazilian community that they would earn substantial sums of money by paying approximately $2,000 to $5,000 to become members of a company referred to as the FoneClub that purportedly sells prepaid telephone calling cards through a multi-level marketing structure. However, the complaint alleged that the defendants, who have emphasized to potential investors that neither they nor the company will earn profits from the sale of phone cards, are in reality luring victims into a pyramid scheme in which its members only make money through the recruitment of new members. The complaint alleged that the defendants emphasized in their sales pitch, which was given in Portuguese, that God wanted the Brazilian community to prosper financially and that the FoneClub would provide the opportunity for it to do so.
For those of you who keep up with (or are in) TelexFree, all of these should sound VERY familiar.

It's worth noting that Victor Sales is usually known as Reverend Victor Sales, and also has two other names. Yes, a man of God in a pyramid scheme. 

For those of you who are NOT familiar with TelexFree, a few Google searches should tell you that...


2) "Sann" and disciples told the world that one can easily make money in TelexFree, usually by posting ads (one a day!) and get paid with VOIP apps which can allegedly be sold, but also gets a "profit share"... but you have to "buy in" the ad package to the tune of several thousand dollars. How different is this from the FoneClub explanation above?

3) God wants Brazilians to proper and FoneClub is the way? That sounds a lot like a Carlos Costas speech where he vowed to fight the Brazilian government's shutdown of TelexFree because God used him to create TelexFree.

After SEC closed down Universo FoneClub it appointed a receiver to give back 1.8 million worth of funds. However, eventually Sann Rodriguez was not punished. Why? He opened for 2 months, got like over 1000 people joined, then a newspaper said FoneClub could be illegal. THEN he hired a MLM lawyer (it may have been Gerald "I see no Ponzi" Nehra), but it was too late, SEC then stepped in and shut him down.  He claimed he's merely ignorant of the fact that what he did was illegal, so he was not penalized other than having his business shut and money repatriated to its rightful owners.


His prior MLM, and FoneClub doBrazil

According to Brazilian news Globo report, he was in Amway, Monavie, and AmeriPlan before jumping to TelexFree. But before TelexFree, he tried to restart FoneClub in Brazil, which failed. He blamed one of his partners stealing his software and database.


His Theatrics in the US Virtual Office

Sann Rodriguez gained a bit of notoriety when one day he and a cameraman walked through the front door of the building which was listed on TelexFree's Brazilian website as their US office, then proceed to walk around pretending the whole building belongs to TelexFree, when Google search shows it's just a Regus virtual office complex where meeting rooms and offices can be rented by the hour, and also receive mail, fax, and phone calls.  Even Brazilian news noticed this "fib" (click through to see video).  What's even funnier is the TelexFree English website lists their HQ as being in Brazil. (remember, Brazilian website lists HQ in the US).

Does something smell "fishy" to you?

 In Conclusion...

So what is Sann Rodrigues, or whatever his name is, up to now? He's going to Europe and tout TelexFree there, with the rest of TelexFree heads, includes Merrill, Wanzeler, and Labriola. And this time, he'll have a new title  "Top Promoter in the world (of TelexFree)"

Given that TelexFree is shut down in Brazil since March 2013, and is clearly illegal in the US according to even MLM pros, this ain't exactly something to brag about...




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Bad Argument: When You Comment, You Should Check Your Facts!

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Was browsing YPRPariah's website, and found something amusing... Some Vemma noob came and posted some comment about how great is Vemma and how everybody else are losers for doubting Vemma, blah blah blah.

Vemma Product Photography and Ad
Vemma Product Photography and Ad
(Photo credit: themichaelminer)
Here's a point for point critique.  His stuff is in blue, and mine will be in red
Honestly I use to be skeptical about vemma just like everyone here. As a business student I’ve been approached multiple times. but I realized that if I’ve been approached so much times it must be a trend and I put my ego aside and just let my friends explain to me why their so excited
So he just admitted he's a victim of FOMO: fear of missing out.  
 At the end of the day you guys really have to choose who your listening too.
So why should we listen to him?  
For anyone who’s skeptical your choosing to listen to a wordpress blog which has no credibility over people like robert kiyosaki, bob proctor, and eric thomas who are all millionaires who all directly work with vemma.
It's interesting how much credence he puts in "credibility". I wonder if he knew the following:
Kiyosaki was an Amway rep and his book was made popular by Amway's Sager Group. And he advocates screwing over his partners because he got away with it TWICE. He charges big speaking fees to appear at events. 
Bob Proctor basically stole all his schtick from Napoleon Hill (and admitted so), and his wife and daughter are high-rankers in Vemma 
As for Eric Thomas, former NFL player and now "Hip Hop Preacher", he's an inspirational speaker who will come to your event if you pay him enough. Between 10K and 20K per appearance, according to one article, as spoken by himself. 
 Why would such credible people put their million dollar reputations on the line to work with vemma if it was a scam? They don’t need any extra money so the risk of working with a scam DEFINITELY wouldnt be worth it.
The answer is simple: they can always speak for someone else. Kiyosaki is constantly pumping out more rehash of his books and has that stupid "seminar" for pumping people more money. Bob also speaks for various other companies as well as his own "The Secret" related seminars, and so does Mr. Eric Thomas. If anything happens to Vemma, it wouldn't hurt them much, if at all. The damage he *thinks* will happen to them is negligible, and the deterrence he relied on is nonexistent.

The phoenix suns do have a contract with vemma and has banners, billboards and a lounge just for verve (google it).
Enron logo, designed by Paul Rand
Enron logo, designed by Paul Rand
(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
That's because Vemma PAID FOR IT, duh. 
Any one remember Enron? Did you remember that Enron used to sponsor the Houston Astro's home field, i.e. Enron Field? Astros were so embarrassed, they had to PAY ENRON to buy back the naming rights to name it Astros Field. 
The company does pay for you to drive an cars an the fact that you could see the car and still be skeptical really shows that your listening to the wrong people in life.
It's just a lease payment, and it's up to recipient to pay the insurances and whatnot? And if the recipient doesn't meet the sales goals that month recipient has to pay out of pocket, but recipient can't remove the Vemma logos.  And logo'ed cars are usually FREE (you're paid up to $500 a month for driving one).
So far, all we got out of Quinn are half-truths and self-centered interpretation of the facts.  Thus, apparently, according to Quinn, we should stop listening to him. 
If you want to know why people do vemma doesnt it make sense to ask someone who’s already DOING it instead of going online an asking people from the outside looking in?
Does catching a cold make you/him/her a cold expert? No?
If not, why does catching doing Vemma make you/him/her a Vemma expert?  And does being a Vemma expert, if there is such a thing, does doing Vemma make you a network marketing expert? Or even a network marketing legal issues expert? 

This is the sort of cult-speak one-sided talk that are often parroted by noobs. The arguments change slightly, the company changes, but the general tone is the same.

This only proves that this commenter is brainless sheeple that let other people think for him rather than actually think through stuff himself. 

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MLM Absurdities: What They Don't Want You To Know About Ganoderma "Healthy Coffee"

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In the past several years, a plethora (plague?) of "healthy coffee" companies appeared on the market. They bear names such as "Gano Excel", "Organo Gold", "Vidacup", "SereniGy", and so on. And they claim to bring you coffee, but with some magical healthy ingredient added to make you healthier, like ganoderma mushrooms and/or some other magical herbs. Sounds enticing, but here's what they don't want you to know.

1) Lousy coffee beans are used to make flavored coffee.

Traditionally, there are good coffee beans... and bad coffee beans. People would buy the good ones for a premium. So what do they do with the not so good ones?

They make flavored coffee with them. The added flavor (and smell) made the bad coffee more palatable.

Coffee geeks would never desecrate good coffee with flavors, even good flavors.

2) How are flavored coffees made any way? 

Modern flavored coffee is made by adding flavored oil to whole roasted beans, before they are grounded. Generally, 3% flavor oil (i.e. 3 pounds of flavor oil for 100 pound of beans) is added. Then the whole thing is sent through a mixer so the oil coats the beans (which can mess up your grinders)

Flavor oil on coffee. Hmmm...  So how did they get Lingzhi flavor onto coffee, if it's generally water extracted?  (see 4)

3) Generally there are only 4 camps of flavored coffee (no mushrooms)

Coffee dated back hundreds of years from Africa when the inhabitants of present-day Yemen drank coffee flavored with nuts. Later, fruits, chocolate, and such flavors are added. Foodeditorials wrote:
Generally speaking, there are four categories of this type of coffee. The first category includes flavors based upon spices such as clove, cinnamon, anise, and cardamom. Next, there are also some coffee flavors that are based upon fruits such as coconut or raspberry. Chocolate based flavors are the next type with the most common being chocolate mint. Lastly, some flavors are based upon nuts like vanilla, hazelnut or macadamia nuts. Crème coffees also have their share of followers; these include flavors such as Irish Creme or French Vanilla coffee.
To recap, that's spice, fruits, chocolate, and nuts. For hundreds of years, these are the four main categories of flavored coffee.

No mushrooms. Ever wonder why?


4) Lingzhi is BITTER (i.e. does NOT go with coffee)

From Wikipedia:
Due to its bitter taste, Lingzhi is traditionally prepared as a hot water extract product.
Adding Lingzhi to coffee can only make the coffee taste WORSE, not better.

And if you didn't taste any Lingzhi, perhaps you're not getting enough of this magical ingredient.

5) How did they add Lingzhi to coffee any way?

Lingzhi extract are usually derived from water extract from slices (fresh or dried), then dried to powder.

But flavored coffee is derived from... flavor OIL and coffee beans.

That does not mix, as you can't make oil from lingzhi.

So how was lingzhi added to coffee?

The logical explanation is... powder extract... added to GROUND coffee / instant coffee.


6) Do you get enough Lingzhi from a cup or two of this coffee?

Did you ever ask how much Lingzhi is there is one cup of coffee?

Organo Gold claimed there are 250 mg, equivalent to one pill's worth. (Is there proof? Nope, just their internal claim. Is there any lab results or audit? Nope. if you can't taste it, how do you know it's there? When Waiora short-changed their own product, they never admitted it except in court...

Given that a pill of Organo Gold gano (easily found on eBay) costs half as much as their coffee (also found on eBay)  ...

But 250 mg of what? Extract? Of what concentration? What potency?

And how much lingzhi are you supposed to take per day any way?

KRGV TV in Texas asked their regional medical center, and one pharmacist there came up with 1200 mg.

That's 5 cups you have to drink per day to have a effect, without overdosing and cause side effects. ASSUMING it really contains 250 mg per cup.

Do you drink 5 cups of bitter coffee every day?

Bonus) Lingzhi / Reishi mushroom is NOT ganoderma lucidem

Asian lingzhi is NOT ganoderma lucidem, even though it looks virtually identical. It's actually a different specie designated ganoderma sichuanese, named for Sichuan, China, back in 1983. Ganoderma lucidem is actually a specie found in Europe. Similar ganoderma had been found all over Asia, but they get other names.

So if your healthy coffee peddler claims it's ganoderma lucidem, he had been reading the wrong parts of Wikipedia or bad PR material.

Conclusion

So-called healthy coffee industry is a "meatball sundae".  People who genuinely want the benefits of ganoderma should just buy the pills (and save 50% )  and buy good coffee to enjoy separately. Not only you don't get enough of the magic ingredient to affect your health, you're ruining coffee.

P.S. And you may be helping an industry full of infighting and backstabbing.
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MLM Absurdities: MLM may be a Cult... revisited. Why Do Herbalifers get Tattoos?

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Previously, MLM Skeptic has discussed how often MLM resembles a cult (of money/greed), where members are to worship their upline and their company, any dissent is stamped out with shame, any defectors ridiculed and denounced, any critics ignored.

Today we will discuss a different part of cult behavior... identifying marks... such as tattoos.

Michael Burton
showing off his Herbalife
tattoo at an Herbalife event
in Serbia 2012
Tattoos used to belong to the realm of gangs and religious cults. It is only in recent years that the more elaborate tattoos have made the transition to "fine art".

Think about it. Tattoos are semi-permanent. It's on your body. It is intensely personal. It is extremely difficult to remove (often costs thousands of dollars), so you are REALLY showing your commitment if you choose to get one.

No wonder gangs often have gang tattoos, so much so, law enforcement have gang tattoo databases to readily identify gang affiliations.

And religious cults often have tattoos, special signs or greetings, and such.

But tattoos for a company? Really?

Back in 2013, a real estate company in New York offered 15% pay raise if its employees get a company tattoo. Owner said he was inspired by one employee who got a tattoo just for the heck of it, and the owner offered him a raise, and from there he decided to go for broke.

Putting a company tattoo on yourself just for the heck of it? That takes some dedication... Or mental illness.

Meet Michael Burton... member of (cult of) Herbalife.

Here's Michael Burton, showing off his Herbalife tattoo. He said he used to be a flabby used car salesman and went backrupt, so he went into Herbalife (at insistence of his in-laws) and became so fit, he competed in those fitness competitions.

Then he went bankrupt. And he owes tons of people money. And he has almost nothing left. Except his passion for Herbalife and his Herbalife tattoo.

But he's hardly the only one with Herbalife tattoos.




Here's his daughter Sydney Mercedes Burton, showing off her own Herbalife tattoo (on her wrist)... and her "accomplishment" of joining her papa at "Millionaire's Team". Wonder if she'll follow him to bankruptcy too?

Sydney Mercedes Burton, showing off her "accomplishment" and her
commitment to Herbalife, with her wrist tattoo, undated photo, courtesy
of saltydroid.info
But this is not a family affliction. This is a widespread phenomenon... ink your body for network marketing.

Next on the exhibit, we have "Brian", a personal trainer, showing off his 6-pack at an Herbalife event, where he attributes his body to Herbalife, so much so he has an Herbalife tattoo on his shoulder.

Brian, showing off his six-pack and his tattoo at an Herbalife event
undated, vidcap off Herbalife promo video

There are many more but these are the ones easily found through Google.

What sort of business would cause people to spontaneously put the company logo on themselves?

A business won't, but a cult will.

The fact that someone did operate a cult based on Herbalife is quite interesting, and Herbalife only terminated him after news of his cult was spread far and wide in 2013.

When you join what you think is a business... beware. It may be a cult.

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Bad Propaganda: The Real Story Behind the "Dropout Lambo" Meme

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A recent viral meme that was made popular by Vemma sheeple was the "Dropout"Lamborghini Aventador

Hyundai SantaFe with "Scholar" Vanity plate,
and Lamborghini Aventador LP720 with "Dropout"vanity plate
via Flickr circa 2013
The intent from Vemma sheeple is to ridicule school, and how Vemma is going to change the lives of the young people participating in it.

But what's the *real* story about the DROPOUT Lambo?

The Lambo is real. It belongs to Phil Karl, CEO of LiveProfile. This is the 2014 Red Aventador LP720. On Phil Karl's Facebook page there's a photo of his older 2012 Yellow Aventador LP700 with the same DROPOUT vanity plate.




And here's a current one, almost the same profile:


Dropout!
Dropout! (Photo credit: Derek Walker Photo (Derk Photography))


So what's the story? Phil Karl really did go to college, according to the same Facebook page... "New York Institute of Technology" in fact:



Furthermore, here's an entry that says Phil Karl got Bachelors (Art and Science) magna cum laude in both Business and Computer Science.


Furthermore he's a true entrepreneur, having started multiple TECH (not network marketing!) startups in the past several years.

So no, I don't know why he chose "DropOut" as his vanity plate. There's a story behind it, and if you are Phil Karl, let me know what's the real story behind the plate, so we can get the real word out there, not this crazy Internet meme that is being abused by people to further their own agenda.

UPDATE (16-FEB-2014): A friend of Phil Karl replied that Mr. Karl did drop out of school... He dropped out of HIGH SCHOOL.

But he finished College.  Michael Dell or Steve Jobs or even Bill Gates... or Mark Zuckerberg did not.

But they're in tech. Not NM. And they CREATED some of the BIGGEST TECH COMPANIES.

If you drop out of school for network marketing, you're just a salesperson, no matter what sort of title you slap on yourself. (Unless you run a tool scam like Shawn Dahl's mother-in-law).

So yes, Mr. Karl's a dropout, but he's a college graduate. Don't be stupid and drop out of college to be a salesperson. 
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Scam Absurdities: Kingdom 777 (i.e. WCM777) adopts Ponzi Speak and Pyramid Selling

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A blatant ponzi scheme such as WCM777 (which changed its name to Kingdom 777) that was chased out of both North and South America by various jurisdictions, decided to go Orwellian by adopting "Newspeak", which seems to be copied from existing ponzi schemes, such as Ad Surf Daily.

BehindMLM made a copy of Kingdom777's official announcement:

Kingdom777 "word usage explanation" announced 13-FEB-2014

  • Investment, purchase
  • Investor, member
  • Dividend or return , bonus

Hilarious, since this is exactly what "Andy" Bowdoin of Ad Surf Daily ponzi did. Quoting from the SEC press release:
To avoid regulatory scrutiny, Bowdoin referred to ASD’s investors as “members,” referred to the investor’s money, payment and investment principle as “ad packages,” and referred to the return on the member’s investment that ASD promised and paid as “rebates.” 
Let's compile the list...

  • investor, member
  • investment, ad packages
  • return, rebates

Yep, same thing.

But there's something else... It seems Ming Xu is simply replaying the Vantone scam, which is the same trick that Interush tried in Hong Kong, and already busted.




What is the Vantone scam? For that, I'll refer you to my original discovery of the Vantone scam that Ming Xu and his buddy "Tiger" Zhi Liu was involved in. Here's a paragraph to give you an idea:
Office Chu of ShenYang Public Security explained, "After detailed investigation, this company [Vantone] had hired many representatives in multiple [Chinese] provinces. They are selling nutraceuticals and water purifiers, with additional bait of 'giving away virgin stock'. Vantone claimed that if the IPO was successful the profit will be tens of times, perhaps hundred times profit.
  
Chenping Zhu, 70 yrs old, told the LegalDaily reporter, that he was tempted by this "100 times profit" and became investor of Vantone, and put in at least 50000 Yuan (RMB).
  
Zhu said, in 2003, a friend recommended her to buy virgin stock of Vantone, told her that if the stock is listed she'll make a lot of money back. However, to get the virgin stock, you have to buy the company products. If you buy 3 units to 13 units (at $558 Yuan RMB per unit) you can purchase virgin stock for $1 per share. If you buy 15 units to 21 units, they'll double your stock... Buy 10000, get 10000 free. The first 100 people every month to order 21 units or more gets 5000 extra shares.  
Got the idea? The more money you put in, the more of this "virgin stock" you get. And if they ever go IPO, you can trade those for "real" stocks, and voila, profit...

Seems Ming Xu and Kingdom777 just swapped the word "bond" for "virgin stock".

The sad part is they aren't even the first to do it in Hong Kong, as Hong Kong already busted one such scheme in 2013, called Interush, which was ALREADY outlawed in China in 2011 and 2012. Interush promised "subscribe to our IRIS suite" and you get X amount of these virtual stock options, which can be swapped for real stock when we go IPO! NOT!!!!

The only difference is Ming Xu's Kingdom 777 is not aimed at China. But with it already outlawed in the Americas, and Europe is usually not dumb enough to fall for this, that pretty much leaves the rest of Asia and Africa, where lack of communication, research, and education may make their populations more vulnerable for the religious affinity scam angle that Ming Xu seem to employ a lot.

Which is why this information needs to be out there.

Beware of Kingdom 777. It's not a place you want to go.

P.S. Any one who had put money into WCM777 in California, is urged to contact California Department of Business Oversight AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.


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Scam Psychology: Why Bad Arguers Often Retreat to Conspiracies As Final Defense

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Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura
Making a living through selling nothing... like a lot
of scams that call themselves network marketing
(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
In studying the financial scams and its victims, as well as the common arguments the brainwashed sheeple use to 'defend' the scam they're in, one of the most common "final arguments" is accuse any 'opponents' as a part of the conspiracy against something. While most often found among the "lotion and potion" defenders, they can be found among all sorts of scams, esp. one that had gone viral across the world (and thus must be eradicated).

There seem to be 3 general types of conspiracies when it comes to network marketing, which is grouped by size: personal conspiracy (it's just some hidden reason why the "opponent" is against the scheme), industry conspiracy (some sort of nebulous attack by competitors, though sometimes it's the government), or global conspiracy (often involving some nebulous mention of Bilderbergs, etc.)

All the conspiracy boils down to is "motivation denial of evidence (of scam)". Such conspiracy accusations can take the following forms (but obviously is not limited to such)

  • You must have failed at ____ to be so bitter
  • You must work for our competitor
  • You're just out to get hits for your blog
  • You are a part of medical establishment against the "wellness industry"
  • You're a part of conspiracy of the rich to keep the rest of us poor

Problem with such conspiracy accusations is conspiracies often rely on circular logic.

Is there any signs of a conspiracy? No. 
So why is there a conspiracy? Because conspiracy suppressed the signs! 

Or on a more personal level

Why do you think I work for a competitor? Because you said we are a scam!
Do you have evidence that I work for a competitor? No... but it made sense to me!
Here's evidence why ____ is a scam. You are a liar and those evidence are fake.
Why would I fake such? Because you work for a competitor.  

Basically, any sort of evidence can be dismissed by "it's part of a conspiracy (against us)".  You have to PRESUME the conspiracy to be true to make sense of the twisted circular logic. it's "self-sealing".

Conspiracy theories are often quite fascinating to study, as it's basically how the mind twists itself into a gordian knot. Psychologists have studied correlations of conspiracy theorists (PDF file), such as is there any correlation between beliefs of conspiracies (i.e. does believing free market make one more like to believe climate denial?)

The results are surprising, and a little troubling. And so was the reaction by the conspiratorial community.


 The paper linked to above of a study from Australia on conspiracy theory pointed out that some people just do NOT study facts and accept consensus, but instead, only rely on their own "personal ideology", which seem to be fostered when quite young. Those people grew up not believing ANYBODY except themselves, and is anti-establishment. Well studied science? Conspiracy of science. Well studied medicine? Conspiracy of medical establishment. Financial regulations? Conspiracy of the rich. So on and so forth. if one person believes one conspiracy, s/he is likely to believe other conspiracies as well.  Everything from climate denial (i.e. "there is no global warming") to "HIV does NOT cause AIDS" to "FBI assassinated Martin Luther King Jr." to "US Knew 9/11 will happened and let it happen"

When this paper was published in 2012, the conspiracy blogosphere was in an uproar.  And accusations about the authors ran wild, with everything from "it's a conspiracy by the Australian government" to "scamming" to "made up **** to make the conspiracy theorists look bad", and so on.

Which lead the authors to write yet ANOTHER paper, how conspiracy theorists reacted to study of conspiracy theorists as a conspiracy theory. :)

But it can basically be summed up in 6 things:

The Six Thoughts of Conspiracy Theorist

1) Any one who disagree is out to do harm (or part of conspiracy)
2) Everybody else is against us (delusion of prosecution / persecution)
3) Paranoid ideation (skeptical to the point of being nihilistic)
4) Refusal to accept "coincidence" i.e. "Not an Accident" thinking
5) Ignore flaws and inconsistencies on its own side, as long as they "challenge" the "official" story
6) Any evidence that disproves conspiracy theory is "cover up", thus self-sealing.

It is absolutely AMAZING how this can be applied to network marketing and bad arguments used to defend scams.

1) Some of the most often heard arguments are: "You must work for a competitor", "You just want hits for your blog", "You just hate our success.". Opponents are often accused of having nefarious intent. NM arguers often accuse NM criticism as "you just hate all NM" when only scams are hated. There are many dedicated "bad SEO" websites setup as almost parody of scambusting websites albeit stating the complete opposite filled with tortured logic on why the NM critics are wrong and whatever scheme is legal.

2) One of the most often touted principles in network marketing is "avoid negativity", as if the entire world is against them, when often it is the scams among network marketing, as well as the unethical behavior of many NM rep that caused the problem. Yet instead of analyzing what was done wrong, and improve upon that, it's "ignore all of that!"

3) Paranoid ideation is very much related to "avoid negativity" but with a touch of reality, but thinking about it in the worst way. It's basically "paranoia", i.e. everybody's against me (except my NM brothers and sisters).

4) Not-An-Accident Thinking basically accepts ANY sort of correlation as evidence of causation. These are the people who believe that some effect on cells in a petri dish or some effect in mice means that ingredient is good for the human body.

5) NM arguers often ignore inconsistent parts of their argument, by focusing ONLY on their own experience, or "I got paid so it can't be a scam", or "I have product so it's not a scam" or "It has potentially illegal part but you don't have to use it".

6) NM can't deny evidence such as prosecution in a different country, so they adjust their thinking to "that's in a separate country and thus not affect us". Though sometimes they will resort to denial, such as "I don't believe my newspaper, I don't see news article in your newspaper, so it can't be true".  (real case, happened at BehindMLM about TelexFree)

So did the authors have any idea on how to FIX this problem? Some.

a) Communications is NOT the problem. The "self-sealing" conspiracy theory means ANY additional data you feed it is taken as a part of the conspiracy. And often, 'backfire effect' will occur.

b) The only solution is prevention (i.e. teaching critical thinking, logic, scientific method, and such early on)

And here's a personal observation:

c) an event so shocking to the conspiracy theorist that will cause him or her to completely revamp his/her worldview.

Having the scam shut down would often do it, but some unscrupulous scammers may lead the victims on (and raise money from them) for months or years in the guise of "defend the scheme", which also tapped into the paranoia / conspiracy.

I personally don't argue with cranks, I lightly mock them with facts. Sooner or later, they'll be backed into a corner. Though some of them are known to do multiple side-steps to keep the argument going. But the general idea is to make them wonder.. if there's so many problems with their position, could they even CONSIDER the possibility that they're wrong?


Thanks to http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2013/02/26/what-happens-when-you-study-conspiracy-theories-the-conspiracy-theorists-make-up-conspiracy-theories-about-you/
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